Verithrax2006-03-05 03:27:55
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 11:53 PM) 265565
It just annoys me that if I walk into a battle with fully prepared, hardened armour... I'm going to actually be worse off than the combatant who walks in with sheer backless robes of silk.
And armour is so much more dashing.
Edit: What if enchanted great robes only went up to a maximum of around 25/25, and could be combined with other forms of armour?
FIrst, that would be obscenely unbalancing for Guardians and Mages; druids would be the only people who'd come out of it with the same defensive capabilities, while mages will stop wearing armour (It's not worth it anymore) and Guardians will become nearly as tanky as warriors. Second, hardened leather isn't dashing, it's the worse possible armour. In real life, leather armour, particularly that made of hides as opposed to tanned leather, tended to accumulate sweat and grease. It usually looked bad, smelled worse, and sliced open as soon as someone shot an arrow at you. If you want to look dashing, buy a hat with a feather on it. In fact, there's nothing more dashing than walking into a fight unprotected, is there?
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Mar 5 2006, 12:04 AM) 265575
Actually I payed around 25k for my robes, and it costs around 4k each time to get them mended, and the mending can give you up to 65 months.
So that's around 325 months for 45k, for the ones I bought, in the situation I bought/mended them.
Differant statistics, same conclusions as Verithrax, robes cost more.
Yes, but that's some seriously overpriced robes and mendings, unless it's Splendour... No, hang on, even if they're splendour robes, you're just buying overpriced silk and using garishly expensive designs. And you people complain about my prices.
Narsrim2006-03-05 03:28:55
To my understanding, you cannot mending anything indefinately. I had a set of great robes mended 3 times that could not be mended a 4th.
Shorlen2006-03-05 03:33:45
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Mar 4 2006, 10:07 PM) 265578
Who are you paying? You're getting MASSIVELY ripped off, it only costs 1100 gold to mend robes.
Serenwilde standard mending price is 3,000 gold for greatrobes. The rationale is that since they can be mended indefinately, and greatrobes are our ONLY source of income really, if we didn't charge that much for mending, we'd never make any profit. Don't like it? Don't get stuff mended by us. But you know what? We like making money, unlike some people who perfer doing everything for free, then quit their trade because they can't afford it anymore, or because they made the trade completely worthless.
Why are Powerstones so hard to find? Because gems are sold so cheaply, they aren't worth the effort of cutting, now even with an arti hammer. Why is there no food in the Serenwilde? Because people sold it so cheap, they ran themselves out of business, and the people who could still make some profit because of their arties stopped playing. Why is it so hard to find a forger? Because too many people forge for free.
On the same line of thought, enchanting a greatrobe takes 70% of a powerstone. You can find powerstones for 500 gold. Therefore, enchanters should enchant robes for 350 gold. Sounds fair, right? So, why do they charge 2,500 gold for it? That's an absurd markup! But it's fair. Why? Because people deserve to make something for their efforts and for all the lessons they put into things.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:34:01
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 3 2006, 04:37 PM) 264859
On a different note, why are mages left with no armour choices? I can understand in other IRE games, mages had quite powerful offensive powers at the highest levels of skill that needed to be balanced by weak defence. However, I don't think this has carried over into Lusternia. Why not allow them to wear some kind of armour, whether it is leather or scale? Is there an RP reason why mages cannot wear armour, but Druids can?
Just since it seems to have been missed.
Ixion2006-03-05 03:38:10
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 09:53 PM) 265565
It just annoys me that if I walk into a battle with fully prepared, hardened armour... I'm going to actually be worse off than the combatant who walks in with sheer backless robes of silk.
And armour is so much more dashing.
Edit: What if enchanted great robes only went up to a maximum of around 25/25, and could be combined with other forms of armour?
So you'd then have the protection of field plate? No way.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:38:30
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 07:34 PM) 265607
Just since it seems to have been missed.
In most universes, Mages can't wear armor because it disrupts their ability to channel magic.
Druids cast in a different way, and since leather is something that was once alive, it makes sense that it wouldn't disrupt their nature/spirit-based magic.
Narsrim2006-03-05 03:38:55
Obviously, the reason is because the average druid has less fashion sense than a mage. Whereas mages will only were elite, cool looking robes, some druids will reduce themselves to greasy armour that smells like poo... popular lore tells us this is primarily a blacktalon thing, but rumors circulate it has been heard of on a hartstone or two.
Vix2006-03-05 03:40:05
What if we gave the druids fossil armor? That was once alive!
EDIT: Hehe.
(Those are things like trilobites and nautiluses on there btw.)
EDIT: Hehe.
(Those are things like trilobites and nautiluses on there btw.)
Narsrim2006-03-05 03:40:57
QUOTE(Vix @ Mar 4 2006, 10:40 PM) 265611
What if we gave the druids fossil armor? That was once alive!
<3 Vix.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:41:36
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 5 2006, 03:38 AM) 265610
Obviously, the reason is because the average druid has less fashion sense than a mage. Whereas mages will only were elite, cool looking robes, some druids will reduce themselves to greasy armour that smells like poo... popular lore tells us this is primarily a blacktalon thing, but rumors circulate it has been heard of on a hartstone or two.
Aye, most druids would rather run about in flimsy silks and satins, which weathers so much better in the wilderness than properly cured and protected leather.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:46:17
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 07:41 PM) 265614
Aye, most druids would rather run about in flimsy silks and satins, which weathers so much better in the wilderness than properly cured and protected leather.
Why not just get a pair of leather robes made? I know there are a couple designs made for the forestrals.
Narsrim2006-03-05 03:46:31
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 10:41 PM) 265614
Aye, most druids would rather run about in flimsy silks and satins, which weathers so much better in the wilderness than properly cured and protected leather.
What are you talking about? I once had green battle robes that screamed: death to the taint. They were sexy.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:47:38
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 5 2006, 03:46 AM) 265619
What are you talking about? I once had green battle robes that screamed: death to the taint. They were sexy.
And likewise, not all leather armour is stinky and uncouth.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:50:57
QUOTE(Ixion @ Mar 4 2006, 10:38 PM) 265608
So you'd then have the protection of field plate? No way.
Please read what you quote.
If ROBES went up to 25/25 max, and could be combined with leather armor, which is around 25/25 max, then armor for Wiccans would actually be nerfed slightly, whereas guardians/mages/druids would get a slight boost, with chainmail.
I still don't like it, as I like wearing greatrobes, but elryn's idea would not give anyone the protection field plate gives.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:52:57
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Mar 5 2006, 03:50 AM) 265622
If ROBES went up to 25/25 max, and could be combined with leather armor, which is around 25/25 max, then armor for Wiccans would actually be nerfed slightly, whereas guardians/mages/druids would get a slight boost, with chainmail.
I'm confused where you are getting this from? Mages can't wear any armour (except robes). Druids and Wiccans can wear leather. Guardians can wear chainmail.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:56:27
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 10:41 PM) 265614
Aye, most druids would rather run about in flimsy silks and satins, which weathers so much better in the wilderness than properly cured and protected leather.
Cloth in multiple shades of green makes up the majority of these flowing
robes, anchored by the rich hue of buckskin leather. The variety of
colours creates a forest-tuned camouflage perfect for any combatant who
might seek to blend within a verdant battlefield. These robes, which
might under normal circumstances seem quite refined and befitting any
commune minister, are currently in a much darker state of affairs,
kissed by a savage edge. Into the leather that makes up the shoulders of
the piece are burned various lines of runic script, the charred hide
reflecting the appearance of ancient wood struck by a lightning bolt.
Then, with charcoal made by that very process, marks have been made on
the cloth, a series of lines in various patterns that whisper of ornate
wartime rituals. The final accent to this bit of battle wear is wooden
plating, sewn atop the long sleeves and in numerous rows that extend
down the cloth from below the waist. Each individual square has been
intricately carved with an image of a majestic totem spirit, scorch
marks being skilfully added in the form of shading to grant each
creature a guise of life, while preserved thorns have been set around
the borders. A small silver tree has been stitched inside the collar.
There you go, nice armoresque robes for druids, buy them! seeee it's leather, and screams "death to snuggly tainted" in a little voice every time to poke it.
Edit:I made half of that last sentence up, try to figure out which part.
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 10:52 PM) 265623
I'm confused where you are getting this from? Mages can't wear any armour (except robes). Druids and Wiccans can wear leather. Guardians can wear chainmail.
hrm, if it's guardians then wiccans should be able to as well, but we can't... I wonder if that's an oversight, or just city Vs. commune RP.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:56:28
That's fine, but why can't I wear actual armour underneath the cloth?
Remember that those robes have zero inherent protection of themselves. It's only magic that offers any defence against weaponry. So really, the flimsy leather is just for show.
And if people really find leather that uncomfortable and foul, I don't know what they are doing making robes out of it for fun.
Remember that those robes have zero inherent protection of themselves. It's only magic that offers any defence against weaponry. So really, the flimsy leather is just for show.
And if people really find leather that uncomfortable and foul, I don't know what they are doing making robes out of it for fun.
Narsrim2006-03-05 03:57:24
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 4 2006, 10:56 PM) 265626
That's fine, but why can't I wear actual armour underneath the cloth?
Why would you? It makes no sense.
it is like saying, why can't I wear 3 coats? Well, if you bought various sizes, I'm sure you could fit 3 coats on someone, but it'd serve no purpose.
Unknown2006-03-05 03:59:52
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 5 2006, 04:28 AM) 265604
To my understanding, you cannot mending anything indefinately. I had a set of great robes mended 3 times that could not be mended a 4th.
Dammit.
Can greatrobes be made non-decay?
Narsrim2006-03-05 04:00:25
QUOTE(Kashim @ Mar 4 2006, 10:59 PM) 265628
Dammit.
Can greatrobes be made non-decay?
No. They are "armour."