Munsia vs the newbie

by Nawat

Back to Combat Logs.

Nawat2006-03-06 08:00:26
I think I cut out most of the non-debating garbage from these logs, sorry if any remains in them.

QUOTE
A pier stretching out over the Inner Sea. (road).
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. A
village woman walks about here, perhaps shopping for her family. Aether Empath,
Nejii Talnara, Moonsage is here, shrouded. He wields an athame dagger in his
left hand and a magic tome in his right. High Wisdom Shorlen Mes'ard, of the
Moon's Dance is here, shrouded. He wields an athame dagger in his left hand and
a tree-emblazoned heater shield in his right. Pentu tzya Q'we'kar is here,
shrouded. She wields a mystic cudgel in her left hand and a golden sickle in her
right. Veradin, Munsia, The Kamikaze Champion is here, shrouded. She wields a
glittering seraphic tower shield in her left hand and the Ancient Cudgel of
Glinshari in her right.
You see exits leading north (open door), east, and west.
2098h, 3216m, 3476e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Munsia exposes your argument as nothing more
than a baseless form of emotional blackmail.
2098h, 3216m, 2821e, 0p x-
You down the last drop from a turquoise vial.
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3216m, 3501e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3501e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia can only blink in
astonishment at your astounding logic.
2098h, 3216m, 3501e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3576e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Munsia exposes your argument as nothing more
than a baseless form of emotional blackmail.
2098h, 3216m, 2713e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3216m, 3460e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3460e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia can only blink in
astonishment at your astounding logic.
2098h, 3216m, 3460e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3460e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Munsia splutters in confusion, unable to refute
your argument.
2098h, 3216m, 3535e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3535e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3535e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Munsia exposes your argument as nothing more
than a baseless form of emotional blackmail.
2098h, 3216m, 2650e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3216m, 3634e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3634e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Your argument leaves Munsia staring at you in
stupefaction, and her continued silence must obviously be taken for concession.
2098h, 3216m, 3634e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3634e, 0p x-
Munsia argues with sweeping authority, buttressing her broad claims with
dogmatic assumptions and justifications. With great glee, you rip apart her
arguments with brilliant logic, transforming the entire discourse into an
example of absurdity.
2098h, 3216m, 3634e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p ex-
You change your debating mindset to be analytical.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia can only blink in
astonishment at your astounding logic.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p x-
Veradin, Munsia D'cente`, The Kamikaze Champion says, "Why do they always send
the novices."
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p x-
Munsia argues with sweeping authority, buttressing her broad claims with
dogmatic assumptions and justifications. With great glee, you rip apart her
arguments with brilliant logic, transforming the entire discourse into an
example of absurdity.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3709e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. With great glee, Munsia rips apart your
arguments with brilliant logic, transforming your entire discourse into an
example of absurdity.
2098h, 3216m, 2702e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3216m, 3474e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3474e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3474e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3216m, 3474e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3216m, 3474e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p ex-
You change your debating mindset to be pedantic.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p ex-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Munsia is so overwhelmed that she eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p x-
Munsia unscrupulously quibbles about the smallest points in her argument,
bringing up esoteric minutiae to support her radical theories. You laugh in her
face and counter every point raised with facts of arcane trivia that deflates
the entire dissertation.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p x-
Using her tongue and the roof of her mouth, Munsia makes a quiet clicking noise.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p x-
"Oooooooooh!" Munsia says, eyes wide with wonder.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p ex-
You change your debating mindset to be pedantic.
2098h, 3216m, 3549e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia laughs in your face and
counters every point you raise with facts of arcane trivia that deflates your
entire dissertation.
2098h, 3216m, 2403e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3216m, 3100e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from a ruby vial.
2098h, 3216m, 3100e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.

---- Cut out a lot of running around trying to find Munsia after she ran ---

After a long pause in you and your interlocutor's dialectic, you lose interest
in the debate and let your mind drift to other things.


QUOTE

--- Round 2 - spent a while windowing and tracking her down again ---
The Gold House.
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. With
arms folded imperiously, Babette Boulanger stands here, watching you closely.
High Wiccan, Saran, Dustie Nurturer is here, shrouded. He wields an athame
dagger in his left hand and a shield bordered in moonstones in his right.
Veradin, Munsia, The Kamikaze Champion is here, shrouded. She wields a
glittering seraphic tower shield in her left hand and the Ancient Cudgel of
Glinshari in her right.
You see a single exit leading east (open door).
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p x-
Munsia empties out a ruby vial into her mouth.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p ex-
Munsia tugs her chin thoughtfully.
2098h, 3176m, 4012e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia laughs in your face and
counters every point you raise with facts of arcane trivia that deflates your
entire dissertation.
2098h, 3176m, 3367e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3176m, 3442e, 0p ex-

--- She ran again - I started chasing after her to end up back where I started ---

The Gold House.
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. With
arms folded imperiously, Babette Boulanger stands here, watching you closely.
High Wiccan, Saran, Dustie Nurturer is here, shrouded. He wields an athame
dagger in his left hand and a shield bordered in moonstones in his right.
Predicant Chandestri tzya Mor'Wyrd is here, shrouded. She wields a golden sickle
in her left hand and a mystic cudgel in her right. Veradin, Narsrim D'cente`,
Heir of Ellindel is here, shrouded. He wields a shield bordered in moonstones in
his left hand and an athame dagger in his right. Squire Nico of the Armies of
Light is here. He wields an angelic battle hammer in each hand.
You see a single exit leading east (open door).
2098h, 3156m, 3442e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Munsia splutters in confusion, unable to refute
your argument.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
"Good!" Munsia enthuses.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. Your argument leaves Munsia staring at you in
stupefaction, and her continued silence must obviously be taken for concession.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3517e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Munsia is so overwhelmed that she eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3592e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. With great glee, Munsia rips apart your
arguments with brilliant logic, transforming your entire discourse into an
example of absurdity.
2098h, 3142m, 2718e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3584e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3584e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3142m, 3659e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3659e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia laughs in your face and
counters every point you raise with facts of arcane trivia that deflates your
entire dissertation.
2098h, 3142m, 2785e, 0p x-
2098h, 3142m, 2785e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3507e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3507e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3507e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Munsia exposes your argument as nothing more
than a baseless form of emotional blackmail.
2098h, 3142m, 2500e, 0p x-
Munsia argues with sweeping authority, buttressing her broad claims with
dogmatic assumptions and justifications. While you have a hunch that her
argument is baseless, it is so general and broad that you are left spluttering
in confusion.
2098h, 3142m, 2295e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3101e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3101e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3101e, 0p ex-
You change your debating mindset to be analytical.
2098h, 3142m, 3101e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia can only blink in
astonishment at your astounding logic.
2098h, 3142m, 3101e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3176e, 0p ex-
Munsia passionately presents her case, fervently arguing her points with
emotional appeals. With absolutely no readily available facts upon which to
analyze the argument, you can only frown and shake your head in frustration,
conceding this emotional outburst to Munsia.
2098h, 3142m, 2972e, 0p ex-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 2972e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3142m, 2972e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3786e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3786e, 0p ex-
You change your debating mindset to be cautious.
2098h, 3142m, 3786e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. After a dramatic pause, Munsia exposes your argument as nothing more
than a baseless form of emotional blackmail.
2098h, 3142m, 2597e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 2597e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3463e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3538e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Munsia is so overwhelmed that she eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
2098h, 3142m, 3538e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3142m, 3538e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3538e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3538e, 0p ex-
You argue with sweeping authority, buttressing your broad claims with dogmatic
assumptions and justifications. With great glee, Munsia rips apart your
arguments with brilliant logic, transforming your entire discourse into an
example of absurdity.
2098h, 3142m, 2285e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 2965e, 0p x-
"Heh heh heh" Munsia chuckles.
2098h, 3142m, 2965e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 2965e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 2965e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia can only blink in
astonishment at your astounding logic.
2098h, 3142m, 2965e, 0p x-
Ah, the soothing bromides help strengthen your ego.
2098h, 3142m, 3679e, 0p x-
Munsia takes a drink from an emerald vial.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p ex-
You passionately present your case, fervently arguing your points with emotional
appeals. Munsia is so overwhelmed that she eagerly capitulates to the emotional
demands made in your argument.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p x-
Munsia eats a sparkleberry.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p x-
You grin mischievously at Munsia.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p ex-
Munsia empties out an emerald vial into her mouth.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p ex-
You unscrupulously quibble about the smallest points in your argument, bringing
up esoteric minutiae to support your theories. Munsia agrees with the logic and
concedes all your points.
2098h, 3142m, 3754e, 0p x-
You have recovered equilibrium.
2098h, 3142m, 3829e, 0p ex-
Delport Path. (road).
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky.
You see exits leading south, west (open door), and northwest.
2098h, 3142m, 3829e, 0p ex-

--- Here Munsia ran again until the debate wore off ---

After a long pause in you and your interlocutor's dialectic, you lose interest
in the debate and let your mind drift to other things.

You tell Veradin, Munsia D'cente`, The Kamikaze Champion, "Aww - that was
getting interesting too."

Munsia tells you, "Got more important things to do then play with a novice."

You tell Veradin, Munsia D'cente`, The Kamikaze Champion, "Like lose to one?"

Munsia tells you, "Nope. but it is a contradiction that a faeling lives in mag."


And Munsia - I don't think its a contradiction for my Faeling to live in Magnagora, the RP I have chosen for him should prove to be mightily entertaining and a lot of fun to play out.
Asarnil2006-03-06 08:04:31
Heh, congrats. You did far better against her than I would have man.
Unknown2006-03-06 08:06:27
Yeesh, debating needs to go.

And no-one ever again say that the cities are disadvantaged in charisma.

They're not. They have the advantage over communes. Especially since apparently the meaning of being a child of forest spirits isn't very compelling anymore.

Asarnil2006-03-06 08:07:56
One guy as a faeling with good RP does not an advantage negate.
Unknown2006-03-06 08:13:59
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Mar 6 2006, 08:07 AM) 266166

One guy as a faeling with good RP does not an advantage negate.

Hardly. Faelings seem to pop up quite a bit from both cities. Obviously there's no limitation on choosing a high charisma race.

Add the greater buffs available to cities, and the advantage is there. Which is fine.
Unknown2006-03-07 16:53:14
QUOTE
Hardly. Faelings seem to pop up quite a bit from both cities. Obviously there's no limitation on choosing a high charisma race.

Add the greater buffs available to cities, and the advantage is there. Which is fine.


Don't forget chanters, either
Amaru2006-03-07 17:19:34
Why is this befouling the combat section?
Unknown2006-03-07 17:23:39
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 7 2006, 05:19 PM) 266827

Why is this befouling the combat section?

Because a log of combatative mechanics was posted?
Amaru2006-03-07 17:55:47
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 7 2006, 05:23 PM) 266833

Because a log of combatative mechanics was posted?


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Xenthos2006-03-07 17:57:51
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 7 2006, 12:55 PM) 266859

rolleyes.gif


I'll see your rolleyes.gif and raise you with a huh.gif .

It does fit here.
Terenas2006-03-07 18:19:35
Amaru hasn't browse the Combat Logs for a while but Debate logs like this are rather common nowaday. Heck, I think I'll go find someone to play chess and post a log of it here, maybe even with color. biggrin.gif
Amaru2006-03-07 18:27:26
QUOTE(terenas @ Mar 7 2006, 06:19 PM) 266867

Amaru hasn't browse the Combat Logs for a while but Debate logs like this are rather common nowaday. Heck, I think I'll go find someone to play chess and post a log of it here, maybe even with color. biggrin.gif


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Richter2006-03-07 18:48:55
Quit post farming with smileys.
Aiakon2006-03-07 18:57:10
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 6 2006, 08:06 AM) 266165

Especially since apparently the meaning of being a child of forest spirits isn't very compelling anymore.


I think Nawat dates from after your Public Posts, Avaer. But.. I don't see why he can't RP it as he wants..
Narsrim2006-03-08 04:48:37
QUOTE(Richter @ Mar 7 2006, 01:48 PM) 266877

Quit post farming with smileys.


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Murphy2006-03-08 05:32:37
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 8 2006, 02:48 PM) 267209

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Narsrim2006-03-08 05:50:20
QUOTE(Murphy @ Mar 8 2006, 12:32 AM) 267233

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Nawat2006-03-08 07:48:29
Hah Terenas, I will counter your Kings pawn to e2 with my Sicilian Dragon defense!

QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 6 2006, 05:43 PM) 266167

Hardly. Faelings seem to pop up quite a bit from both cities. Obviously there's no limitation on choosing a high charisma race.

Add the greater buffs available to cities, and the advantage is there. Which is fine.


What posts of yours are these? I would be interested to read them, though I fail to see a valid reason why we should all conform to your beliefs of RP in this game instead of our own.
Unknown2006-03-08 07:53:18
QUOTE(Nawat @ Mar 8 2006, 07:48 AM) 267270

What posts of yours are these? I would be interested to read them, though I fail to see a valid reason why we should all conform to your beliefs of RP in this game instead of our own.

You can follow any RP that you like. smile.gif I didn't say you had to conform to anything, only that the forest part doesn't seem to be as compelling anymore.

The posts are in public - #674 and onwards was the discussion Aiakon was referring to, I think.
Ekard2006-03-08 17:56:44
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 7 2006, 08:55 PM) 266859

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QUOTE(Xenthos @ Mar 7 2006, 08:57 PM) 266860

I'll see your rolleyes.gif and raise you with a huh.gif .

It does fit here.



QUOTE(Richter @ Mar 7 2006, 09:48 PM) 266877

Quit post farming with smileys.



QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 8 2006, 07:48 AM) 267209

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QUOTE(Murphy @ Mar 8 2006, 08:32 AM) 267233

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QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 8 2006, 08:50 AM) 267235

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And nice debating out there!