Furrikin Dreamweavers

by Shorlen

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Shorlen2006-03-07 07:08:36
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22781w exk-
Nejii tells you, "Stupid targetting thing."
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22793w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22793w exk-
A stabbing pain hits you in the chest, causing you to moan.
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Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
2920h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22805w exk-
You get a sudden headache.
2920h, 4051m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22805w exk-roll

You roll your eyes.
2920h, 4051m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22805w exk-ql

Backwards avenue.
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. A
flowering archway rises up from the ground. A birch sapling clings tenaciously
to the ground here. Sorcerer of Moonlit Verdure, Xiphoid Caelicus is here,
shrouded. He wields an athame dagger in his left hand. Aether Empath, Nejii
Talnara, Moonsage is here, shrouded. He wields an athame dagger in his left hand
and a magic tome in his right.
You see exits leading southeast and southwest.
2920h, 4051m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-
Xiphoid lays a hand on your forehead, and your body tingles with a healing
warmth. As your wounds are healed, new wounds open up on Xiphoid's body.
3186h, 4126m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-focus mind

You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
3186h, 3901m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22736w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 3901m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22736w exk-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
3186h, 4391m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22736w exk-diagnose

You are:
an insomniac.
3186h, 4391m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22736w xk-
Your mind is able to focus once again.
3186h, 4391m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22736w xk-
You have recovered equilibrium.
3186h, 4391m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22748w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4793m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22748w exk-
Xiphoid lays a hand on your forehead, and your body tingles with a healing
warmth.
3186h, 4793m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22748w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22760w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22766w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22778w exk-
Your pipe has gone cold and dark.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22778w exk-
Nejii fidgets impatiently.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22790w exk-
Nejii takes a drink from a turquoise vial.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22790w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22802w exk-
A pained expression comes over Nejii's face.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22802w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22814w exk-
A little girl skips in from the southeast.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22814w exk-
Nejii takes a drink from a ruby vial.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22814w exk-
Nejii takes a drink from a ruby vial.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22826w exk-
Your eyes droop and you cannot stop yourself from yawning.
Your insomnia has cleared up.
Insomnia defence stripped
insomnia
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22826w exk-
You flip the bird.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22826w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22826w exk-
A glint of silver mail heralds the entry of a knight of Faethorn.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22826w exk-focus mind

You focus your mind intently on curing your mental maladies.
You aren't such a complete idiot anymore.
Stupidity unafflict caught
3186h, 4599m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22751w exk-
Your mind is able to focus once again.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22763w exk-
Your exhausted mind can stay awake no longer, and you fall into a deep sleep.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22763w exkp-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22763w exkp-
Xiphoid places a forefinger between your eyes, and a soothing warmth passes
through you.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22763w exkp-wake

You open your eyes and yawn mightily.
stand
Missing insomnia defence
insomnia
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exkp-
You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exk-
You clench your fists, grit your teeth, and banish all possibility of sleep.
Insomnia defence restored
3186h, 4734m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exk-
Your exhausted mind can stay awake no longer, and you fall into a deep sleep.
3186h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exkp-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22775w exkp-
A terrifying nightmare invades your sleep, of a gruesome monster slowly
devouring you with sharpened fangs. You cannot move as you are eaten alive.
2713h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22787w exkp-wake

You open your eyes and yawn mightily.
stand
Missing insomnia defence
insomnia
2713h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22787w exkp-
You stand up and stretch your arms out wide.
2713h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22787w exk-
You are already an insomniac.
2713h, 4734m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22787w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
2713h, 4734m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22787w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
2872h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22799w exk-
A little girl skips out to the southeast.
2872h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-
Nejii grabs his chest and moans.
2872h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
2872h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-
Xiphoid places a forefinger between your eyes, and a soothing warmth passes
through you.
2872h, 4809m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22811w exk-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22817w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22817w exk-ct Can someone help Nejii kill Urazial?

(Serenwilde): You say, "Can someone help Nejii kill Urazial?"
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Nejii grabs his chest and moans.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22829w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22829w exk-
Pressing his hands together before him, Nejii bows his head and a violet light
springs forth from the crown of his head and strikes out at an invisible figure,
who writhes in agony.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22835w exk-
(Serenwilde): Nejii says, "It's not going to happen."
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(Serenwilde): Nejii says, "He's gone."
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22853w exk-
Xiphoid lays a hand on your forehead, and your body tingles with a healing
warmth.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22853w exk-
A glint of silver mail heralds the entry of a knight of Faethorn.
3186h, 4824m, 4824e, 10p, 14830en, 22877w exk-
(Serenwilde): Nejii says, "Impossible to get him."



19 hits, and there is no other attack we can do against dreamweavers, and no way to hinder them or keep them from just leaving when they feel like it. Is this the way it's intended to be?


EDIT: It was actually 24 hits - I missed the first five in that log.
Sylphas2006-03-07 07:39:14
Remember, dreamweavers can neither heal nor cure themselves (besides sap and channel). That has to always be a consideration when you suggest hinderances. It shouldn't take someone with Healing for a Dreamweaver to be able to do anything.

And I still find it silly that people are trying to get rid of people, then complain when they simply leave without actually dying. They left, you won. Yeah, you didn't pwn them and truly stop them from doing what they wanted, but it's better than them sticking around.

That said, this does seem out of whack and in need of tweaking. Just please don't nerf Furrikin, we don't have all that much going for us besides being cool and not actually being bad at anything. We're mediocre in almost all circumstances compared to other races available (*coughmugwumpcough*).
Shorlen2006-03-07 08:20:02
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Mar 7 2006, 02:39 AM) 266608

Remember, dreamweavers can neither heal nor cure themselves (besides sap and channel). That has to always be a consideration when you suggest hinderances. It shouldn't take someone with Healing for a Dreamweaver to be able to do anything.

And I still find it silly that people are trying to get rid of people, then complain when they simply leave without actually dying. They left, you won. Yeah, you didn't pwn them and truly stop them from doing what they wanted, but it's better than them sticking around.

That said, this does seem out of whack and in need of tweaking. Just please don't nerf Furrikin, we don't have all that much going for us besides being cool and not actually being bad at anything. We're mediocre in almost all circumstances compared to other races available (*coughmugwumpcough*).



The thing is, he left after sitting there afflicting us and attacking and ignoring the attacks on him for about two minutes. Two minutes of constantly being hit without him being able to heal just seems wrong.

Dunno, it just seems like offensive dreamweaving, when not in a group, has zero chance to kill someone, but a very good ability to annoy the heck out of them without them being able to do anything meaningful to chase the dreamweaver away.
ferlas2006-03-07 10:04:16
Its a stalemate with one of the tankyiest dreamweavers in the game.
Unknown2006-03-07 11:01:22
What sort of things could improve the situation, other than changing the damage of violet?
ferlas2006-03-07 12:26:43
Increasing the damage to you could easily stop urazial would pretty much screw over all other dreamweavers, changing the damage type would mean that your problem would move over to a different race unless you made it unblockable, but as you said it was a stalemate with one of the best dreamweavers in the game sure its annoying but you delt with it.
Drago2006-03-07 13:16:58
Could this be making it harder?
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3382h, 3985m, 3181e, 10p, 18731w exkp-
You separate your dreambody from your physical body and float free.
You feel your body and mind surge as the absinthe suffuses throughout your dreambody.
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And couldn't you get your own dreamweavers? (I honestly don't know, so I figure I'd throw it out as a possible option) And where was his body? I know you can enter things while dreamweaving (incase he was on ethereal glomdoring) so maybe a dreamweaver on your side could've run over to where he was sleeping and started

I guess none of those really change the fact that furrikin are resistant to magic attacks.

Just my, most likely wrong in some way, thoughts on alternatives.
Shorlen2006-03-07 16:04:24
QUOTE(Drago @ Mar 7 2006, 08:16 AM) 266686

Could this be making it harder?And couldn't you get your own dreamweavers? (I honestly don't know, so I figure I'd throw it out as a possible option) And where was his body? I know you can enter things while dreamweaving (incase he was on ethereal glomdoring) so maybe a dreamweaver on your side could've run over to where he was sleeping and started

I guess none of those really change the fact that furrikin are resistant to magic attacks.

Just my, most likely wrong in some way, thoughts on alternatives.


Isn't Burst also 100% magic?

And the simple 'solutions' if this is seems as a problem are: make racial resistances not carry over to dreamform, since you're not in your body and thus do not have what makes you resistant to the damage, and to make the damagetype unblockable damage.
Unknown2006-03-07 16:08:07
The other thing that -could- be done is to stop regenerations of your body affecting your dreamform health. Since there is already a base dreamform regeneration (just over a hundred or so a tick, if I remember correctly), with level 2 or 3 health regen I could regain 50% of my max health in around 10-15 seconds.
ferlas2006-03-07 16:11:24
But as people have said furrikin are poor as a warrior class and just about average as a caster class, dream weaving is the only area they excell in and even then it was the tankiest dream weaver in the game nejii made him run before he could do any damage to you, sure its annoying but you did deal with it fine.
Unknown2006-03-07 16:13:50
QUOTE(ferlas @ Mar 7 2006, 04:11 PM) 266736

But as people have said furrikin are poor as a warrior class and just about average as a caster class, dream weaving is the only area they excell in and even then it was the tankiest dream weaver in the game nejii made him run before he could do any damage to you, sure its annoying but you did deal with it fine.

No he didn't, Urazial did plenty of damage.

I agree its silly to expect to always be able to kill a dreamweaver, but Shorlen has a good point in that it took 19 violets to drive him off.
Narsrim2006-03-07 16:27:48
Just to clarify, Dreamweavers -can- heal themselves. Whatever attack it is that saps health, also restores health to the Dreamweaver.

When Munsia was a furrikin Dreamweaver, I tested with her at one point. While healing herself with that attack, I could stack -no- damage with a 18 int violet at level 3 equilibrium.

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As for the fix, I have a damn good one. Magic resistance needs re-evaluated because its stupid. When it doubt, magic resistance is handed out to nearly every class and a plethora of races.

A 22 int Moonburst does -123- damage to Nejii (furrikin moondancer). A 22 int Moonburst, does like -300- damage to the average Krokani Paladin fully deffed with trans magic. A 22 int moonburst does -450- damage to the average lucidian Celestine.

Everyone can get a magic proof on robes, Magic skillset (which by the way is supposed to increase magic damage, and mine increased with trans magic by an absolutely insignificant amount). That's like a base 25% reduction for EVERYONE. If you have a level 3 magic penalty, right there is it reduced to just a 0.5 penalty.

Magic resistance needs totally revamped.

EDIT:

Magic Proof = 10%

Trans Magic = 10-15%

Level 3 Magic Resistance = 30%

Benediction = 10%

Resistance = 10%

Draconis = 10%

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A furrikin/krokani/etc paladin can get 85% reduction to magic damage. There is no other damage type that can be resisted like this. Even full plate with putrefaction would be a close call.

So imagine if I have a 22 in moonburst (which is huge, it requires a knowledge blessing, +3 int from dolphin, drawdown, and a truefavor), I'd deal like 1500 damage with no defs. With defs, I'm dealing 225 damage.
Shorlen2006-03-07 19:21:19
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 7 2006, 11:13 AM) 266739

No he didn't, Urazial did plenty of damage.

I agree its silly to expect to always be able to kill a dreamweaver, but Shorlen has a good point in that it took 19 violets to drive him off.


24, that log doesn't include the first five, I noticed after the fact. I coiuld edit it, but meh.

QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 7 2006, 11:27 AM) 266745

Benediction = 10%

Resistance = 10%


Benediction = Resistance = Maiden blessing, right?
ferlas2006-03-08 11:27:23
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Mar 7 2006, 07:21 PM) 266895

24, that log doesn't include the first five, I noticed after the fact. I coiuld edit it, but meh.
Benediction = Resistance = Maiden blessing, right?


I think they are all the same so dont stack. Could be wrong
Ceren2006-03-09 01:50:06
They're the same thing. Also, Draconis is 15%.
Narsrim2006-03-09 01:51:33
QUOTE(ferlas @ Mar 8 2006, 06:27 AM) 267306

I think they are all the same so dont stack. Could be wrong


Maiden/Benediction don't stack, but I believe Resistance does.