Hazar2006-03-23 03:36:51
Just for reference, a lot of bash-intensive players seem to be low-ranked Paladins.
Tsuki2006-03-23 03:38:55
QUOTE(nyla @ Mar 22 2006, 12:17 PM) 272280
If you want to go the blind faith route go Serenwilde
Yes, knowing what has happened historically because of certain things along the way, learning from that, and acting accordingly is "blind faith" of course.
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Mar 22 2006, 10:22 PM) 272471
All the orgs have pretty solid RP you can sink into if you take on the mind-set of their organization when you do it.
Excellent point. Don't try to have a character be something they're not. Don't bring OOC rationalization and justification IC. You don't have to subscribe fully to each and every point in the mind-set of the organization, but if you're trying to be part of it with totally opposing views, it doesn't fit or make much sense. Might vary depending on the org, but I've outguilded/ostracized a few. Moondancer mind-set is very firm on several issues and trying to live otherwise doesn't work.
It's like joining PETA and showing up to a demonstration wearing a fur coat and leather boots.
Edit:
QUOTE(Hazar @ Mar 22 2006, 10:33 PM) 272480
Okay, try this for unbiased suggestions.
If, when you're not bashing, you like lots of social interaction and cheerful, happy, playful players for your fellow citizens, go to Serenwilde.
If, when you're not bashing, you like light social interaction and odd, driven, entertaining players for your fellow citizens, go to Magnagora.
If, when you're not bashing, you like some social interaction and alternatively fanatical or kind-hearted players for your fellow citizens, go to Celest.
If, when you're not bashing, you like some social interaction and sophisticated, intelligent, attractive, and generally amazing players for your fellow citizens, go to Glomdoring.
Speaking from a Seren perspective, I'd think of Seren more as a big mixed-fruit bowl as we've got a fair bit of extremes and variety. Of course, it also might depend on what time of day you tend to be around. You play in Glom? Ask some of your communemates how "cheerful, happy, playful" they find their interactions with Narsrim and such.
Unknown2006-03-23 03:42:43
QUOTE(Hazar @ Mar 22 2006, 10:33 PM) 272480
stuff
That is biased, it suggests that Glomdorings are the most intelligent of the basin, and Serenwilders are all just Syntobis.
Unknown2006-03-23 03:43:39
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Mar 23 2006, 01:08 PM) 272488
Excellent point. Don't try to have a character be something they're not. Don't bring OOC rationalization and justification IC. You don't have to subscribe fully to each and every point in the mind-set of the organization, but if you're trying to be part of it with totally opposing views, it doesn't fit or make much sense. Might vary depending on the org, but I've outguilded/ostracized a few. Moondancer mind-set is very firm on several issues and trying to live otherwise doesn't work.
This mentality is so very wrong.
Xenthos2006-03-23 03:43:48
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Mar 22 2006, 10:42 PM) 272490
Glomdorings are the most intelligent of the basin, and Serenwilders are all just Syntobis.
Xavius2006-03-23 03:44:50
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Mar 22 2006, 09:42 PM) 272490
That is biased, it suggests that Glomdorings are the most intelligent of the basin, and Serenwilders are all just Syntobis.
Shiri2006-03-23 03:45:27
QUOTE(Razorvine @ Mar 23 2006, 03:43 AM) 272493
This mentality is so very wrong.
Not really. I don't go to Magnagora as a character who tries to denounce the Demon lords and preach the value of the Supernal's teaching AND EXPECT THEM TO LIKE ME.
Everyone agrees THAT would be silly, I -hope.-
EDIT: And quiet in the peanut gallery, Xs.
Tsuki2006-03-23 03:46:18
QUOTE(Razorvine @ Mar 22 2006, 10:43 PM) 272493
This mentality is so very wrong.
Remember that we're playing a game. If someone isn't going to get into the game, what's the point of playing it?
Unknown2006-03-23 03:49:22
QUOTE(Shiri @ Mar 23 2006, 01:15 PM) 272496
Not really. I don't go to Magnagora as a character who tries to denounce the Demon lords and preach the value of the Supernal's teaching AND EXPECT THEM TO LIKE ME.
Everyone agrees THAT would be silly, I -hope.-
Yes.
You misunderstand.
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Mar 23 2006, 01:16 PM) 272497
Remember that we're playing a game. If someone isn't going to get into the game, what's the point of playing it?
Precisely!
Shiri2006-03-23 03:51:25
QUOTE(Razorvine @ Mar 23 2006, 03:49 AM) 272502
Yes.
You misunderstand.
Care to clarify then? I can't think what else about the mentality would be wrong.
EDIT: Oh, unless you meant the mentality Tsuki was discouraging is wrong.
Unknown2006-03-23 03:51:47
QUOTE(Razorvine @ Mar 22 2006, 10:49 PM) 272502
Precisely!
This supports what she said. If you are going to randomly throw together a charactor who is so totally differant in views and motives from everyone in your guild, you'll be at odds, your views will be seen to be dangerous and it might even get you kicked out if you keep it up.
In no way were we saying you have to be a mindless robot, just that as a new player it's best not to be at odds with your guild/nation.
Unknown2006-03-23 04:01:51
Ah...
I didn't really want to get into an argument over this, because I do not have first-hand experience with dealing with Wesmin or Tsuki in-game.
However, the 'you must create a character that conforms to our guild' idea is a 'bad thing'. This encourages shallow role-play, as you slowly but surely force people into cookie cutter personalities.
'create a character and then choose the guild most suited' is a subtle but very important distinction. And helps the world become a more diverse and interesting place. Of course in order for this to work, there needs to be 'some' measure of tolerance within the guild.
I may well be wrong, but your forum responses have seemed to me to indicate that your are slowly losing this tolerance.
I think this is bad for the game.
(And no I don't mean going to stupid extremes like creating a Supurnal worshipping character and joining the Nihilists).
I didn't really want to get into an argument over this, because I do not have first-hand experience with dealing with Wesmin or Tsuki in-game.
However, the 'you must create a character that conforms to our guild' idea is a 'bad thing'. This encourages shallow role-play, as you slowly but surely force people into cookie cutter personalities.
'create a character and then choose the guild most suited' is a subtle but very important distinction. And helps the world become a more diverse and interesting place. Of course in order for this to work, there needs to be 'some' measure of tolerance within the guild.
I may well be wrong, but your forum responses have seemed to me to indicate that your are slowly losing this tolerance.
I think this is bad for the game.
(And no I don't mean going to stupid extremes like creating a Supurnal worshipping character and joining the Nihilists).
Shiri2006-03-23 04:03:34
QUOTE(Razorvine @ Mar 23 2006, 04:01 AM) 272505
(And no I don't mean going to stupid extremes like creating a Supurnal worshipping character and joining the Nihilists).
But that's the kind of thing we don't tolerate. It's not like there's no room for differences.
Unknown2006-03-23 06:29:53
Thanks for all your help everyone. Still unsure of the lowmagic/highmagic but I guess I have time to decide?
Unknown2006-03-23 06:40:55
Yeah you got time to decide. I suggest you look over the help files on the website about the guilds and races. Find a guild and city that fits the views and believes you want to follow and go with it. Pick a race that you think you would do best at. You get one free reincarnation so if you pick the wrong race you can change it but only once. Otherwise you have to pay 100 crs to change again.
On a side note...Mag is not evil. They just follow their own views and believes. Celest isn't good. They just like to think they are. And Glomdoring will rule the basin and all that inhabit it.
On a side note...Mag is not evil. They just follow their own views and believes. Celest isn't good. They just like to think they are. And Glomdoring will rule the basin and all that inhabit it.
Iridiel2006-03-23 11:34:26
QUOTE(Quidgyboo @ Mar 23 2006, 04:31 AM) 272478
No one has ever, to my knowledge, made a conclusive argument that states 'evil is this, this and this, but not this or that'.
I must disagree.
My character is good.
Evil is the opposite of good.
Thus, anything opposing my character views is evil.
That makes Maggies evil, Celest middle evil and still haven't interacted with Glomdoring.
Serenwilde, of course, isn't evil provided you are allowed to be ctoff.
See? I finally found the primal answer to everything!
ferlas2006-03-23 11:36:52
The nice thing about every organisation in lusty, is that they all belive that what they are doing is for the best or "good"
Iridiel2006-03-23 11:45:47
Nah, I understand good in the old sense of "something that helps me or makes me happy in one way or another"
ferlas2006-03-23 11:49:07
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Mar 23 2006, 11:45 AM) 272631
Nah, I understand good in the old sense of "something that helps me or makes me happy in one way or another"
thats exactly what I mean, mag thinks its good to taint it helps them and makes them happy, celest things its good to kill taint it helps them and makes them happy
Iridiel2006-03-23 12:00:18
QUOTE(ferlas @ Mar 23 2006, 12:49 PM) 272633
thats exactly what I mean, mag thinks its good to taint it helps them and makes them happy, celest things its good to kill taint it helps them and makes them happy
Noo, they don't think only on their own good, most magnagoras and celestians and some serenwilders think that they're working for the wellbeing of the entire basin by tainting/floading/etc...
They think globally.