A trite response based on the quick impression one might get from a quick glance at the various orgs.

But if you stop and think about it Magnagora is actually one of the least evil organisations (looking at this from an objective out of game perspective).

Sure Magnagora may be seen as an aggressive org seeking to dominate, control, repress or overthrow the rest of the basin. However compared to Celest's policies of misinformation and genocide, I have to feel it loses out in the evil stakes to Celest.

Of course both the citys pale in comparison to the self-admitted fanatic and isolationalist policies of the Seren.

So welcome to Magnagora, one of the most tolerant, just and stable societies in the basin.

However compared to Celest's policies of misinformation and genocide

Of course both the citys pale in comparison to the self-admitted fanatic and isolationalist policies of the Seren.

Nah, I understand good in the old sense of "something that helps me or makes me happy in one way or another"

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I must disagree.
My character is good.
Evil is the opposite of good.
Thus, anything opposing my character views is evil.
That makes Maggies evil, Celest middle evil and still haven't interacted with Glomdoring.
Serenwilde, of course, isn't evil provided you are allowed to be ctoff.

See? I finally found the primal answer to everything!


I understand good in the old sense of "something that helps me or makes me happy in one way or another" tongue.gif

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Razorvine: Regardless of how the city and guilds are designed, and regardless of your intention, the way most of you roleplay and act comes off as standard evil.

Maybe it's just a PR issue.

If you want to go the uber hard RP route go Glomdoring
If you want a more church/crusades like atmosphere go New Celest
If you want your standard evil go Magnagora
If you want to go the blind faith route go Serenwilde

Oh be nice and stop being spiteful, guild leadership places arnt everyones cup of tea go ask shorlen how much fun he had at the end

Your generally nice about most stuff narsrim but every now and then you just seem to try and pick an argument for no reason, nyla wasnt saying anything nasty about any of the organisations just giving his view on what he though most of them seemed to him, feel free to do the same yourself narsrim.

Oh and come oh about richter find a group of people in the game goverments who havnt made what looks like a silly and unpopular decision ever before.

I certainly found the descriptions quite snide and snotty. Serenwilde has blind faith? Excuse me? Glomdoring was once tainted - and the entire Commune was forced to ignore and reject it because Viravain wouldn't acknowledge due to a case of dementia.

I despise when newbies are manipulated by people to join organizations on the basis they are filled with such hard working, creative, roleplaying people but everyone else isn't.

Where in my statement did I say other organizations didnt have RP. I didnt say uber cool... I said uber hard. I just stated that being in Glomdoring is harder and a lot more stressful that being in any other organization. So perhaps instead of reading into what I say you should take it for face value. Perhaps it is your bias that is the problem. As the only bias I have is toward Viravain and Estarra.

Ah...

I didn't really want to get into an argument over this, because I do not have first-hand experience with dealing with Wesmin or Tsuki in-game.

However, the 'you must create a character that conforms to our guild' idea is a 'bad thing'. This encourages shallow role-play, as you slowly but surely force people into cookie cutter personalities.

'create a character and then choose the guild most suited' is a subtle but very important distinction. And helps the world become a more diverse and interesting place. Of course in order for this to work, there needs to be 'some' measure of tolerance within the guild.

I may well be wrong, but your forum responses have seemed to me to indicate that your are slowly losing this tolerance.

I think this is bad for the game.

(And no I don't mean going to stupid extremes like creating a Supurnal worshipping character and joining the Nihilists).

The point I was making is that (in general) few people are going to be attracted to: standard (read: common, non-unique, generic, etc.) anything in a diverse fantasy environment. Likewise, the average person isn't going to be attracted to "blind faith."

Those are not positive aspects of an organization. However, any "good" organization is going to want to cater to "uber hard" roleplayers because they really make an organization interesting. Thus, while you may have had no ill intent, the descriptions were certainly misleading and I feel unfair.