What is 5p? I thought torture was 2p.

I thought tourture was 3 power?

2 for omen, sensitivty hex and then three power for torture?

Ah well either way 3 or four power in total, cant torture easily can cure sensitivtiy, It just dosnt look that good to me.

the demon can give sensitivity too

Torture three power, omen two. Five. I whammy sensitivity, though, so I can invest the demon with shackles alone and get off a torture before they tipheret.

sensitivity is broken with whammy, it doesn't mask it

It is in my envoy report to get fixed.

It's rare to stick omen on people to be honest, I usually only use damage on mages and lower leveled people.

2 power for omen, needs to be bound and sensitive
and you would need to do 4 tortures in a row against someone who was incabable of curing to kill them 12 power in total just on tortures.

It just dosnt really seem a viable tatic at all compared to inquisition or absolve/wrack.

While yes, it isn't going to work on Daevos, the point is that is viable against what... 95% of Lusternia?

You can make 95% of the population unable to cure at all for the time it takes to do 4 3 power moves?

And well if you can make them unable to cure for that length of time then you can easily get a wrack/absolove on them or probally just kill them with cosmic fire.

It will always be easier to get something that requires 50% versus 0%. That's really not saying much. My point is that it is decent and viable. Hell, I would speculate that something like:

aeon/aeon/quicken/cosmic fire whoring with demon on shackles/anorexia/sensitivity would be enough for most people if you had say 17-19 int.

Oh come on thats easily countered, cure sensitivty web them or shield. Thats like saying oh I can kill people by double whammy with sensitivy and something then just nightkiss/moonburst them, it just isnt going to happen against most people.

I swear to you I do it all the time. Obviously not against you, geb, etc... but lots of other people do.

So its a viable tatic on people who cant cure better than average.

In my experiences, that would kill the "average"

Considering I did 2.9k damage with a sensitive/omened torture, I'd say that if Iwere to invest it the demon with bleeding, let it do a cycle and go back to shackles, it'd be okay. Besides, noone who I fight and isn't surged is going to have more than 5k hp, and if they're surged, I'm going to laugh, amissio them and wrack them.

Its because amissio/leech/lash are % based on max mana.

To clarify:

Mana draining attacks usually do: X% of max mana + Y constant. For example, 15% + 200.

Anyone happen to worked out the exact numbers yet?

I can't use putrefaction effectively. I always find out I'm better off without it. I don't know, perhaps I'm biased because I have lvl2 sipping penalty, however Viscanti have it as well (though it might work for them in Taint).

Also, while we're at it, could we clear some things? Namely, let's find out once and for all if Halo and Demonscales are the same or not (Hajamin used to claim so, Thorgal said so as well after being a Celestine. Yet apparently it isn't). And a second thing, demons and angels afflictions. There was a big fuss a long time ago because angels were afflicting in invested order while demons randomly. Then it was, supposedly, either cleared up or changed to be random for both, but now I again hear it's different.

Angels have always been random too. As for logs of the skills, I'd post em if I had the abilities to test.