I didn't say we shouldn't, I asked for removing focus spirit from domination. As for emptying vials, I'm of an opinion that selfishness should prevent it.
I don't want such cheap things being possible, it's just that if you take it too far, it can become useless. Like I said, 100 mana limit wouldn't allow for forcing focus body. That's lame.

Correction, I had to run once to keep up with mana drain. Dunno where you get off me running 'constantly', I flew once to sip mana back up, went down and killed you. The afflictions were long gone and cured. You had about 4 seconds to run from soulless tarot card as well, don't know why you didn't roll out.

Also, 2 succumbs (succumb, eat reishi, drain, cured, succumb, eat reishi, drain, cured) Takes me from 3583 mana to 300~500 mana, with perfection stigmata sipping mana eating sparkleberry and healing scroll.

You flew quite a few times until you were made unable to fly away, Im not saying theres anything wrong with the tatic rubbing soulless inbetween affliciton healing breaks is a nice plan for anyone to use.

0:00:00 succumb hits -800
50/50 for succumb to hit again -800
Sip for 700 sparkle for 200
at +100 or -700 mana
0:04:00 sucumb hits -800
at -700 or -1500 mana
50/50 for sucumb to hit again -800
at -700 -1500 or -2300
sip sparkle +700 +200
at +200 or -600 or -1400 mana(most likely -600 mana)

That dosnt count in any extra regeneration or drain you may have.

Throw in a hinder and a shield and you recover the worst case mana drain, even a kneel from your angel would give you enough of a break to recover some of it, 3k mana drain with sipping and regeneration just cant be done thoros unless you were failing to cure or had a lot of other mana drains active.

I don't get why all of you say that it hits before it cured....didn't do it for me yet, and I was already hit with it like 20 times.

At inept magic it hits for quite a bit in 2 seconds. I put in the top timestamp because the ones between her casting it was too close to the above.
3353h, 2363m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb- < 20:35:11.005 >
You must regain equilibrium first.
3353h, 2363m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
Your tail is not in position to strike, yet.
3353h, 2363m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
Chanting dark words Ferlas points towards words you, sending a shiver up your
spine.
3353h, 1407m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
The shadows weigh on your thoughts, draining your mental energies.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb- < 20:35:11.456 >
You must regain equilibrium first.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb- < 20:35:11.646 >
You must regain equilibrium first.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
Your tail is not in position to strike, yet.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 841.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
Wagging her finger in censure, a nymph bound in shadows whispers quietly to a
barghest, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
The shadows on your mind fade.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb- < 20:35:12.137 >

So it drains about 950 on you with a max mana of over 4k. 800 to me with about 3700 mana, and you have a very bad sip pen as well to add on to your calcuations. I was generaly working on succumb against neutral sip pen and about 3700 mana in my calcuations.

It was 1912 instantly.

3353h, 2363m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
Chanting dark words Ferlas points towards words you, sending a shiver up your
spine.
3353h, 1407m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb-
The shadows weigh on your thoughts, draining your mental energies.
3353h, 451m, 3992e, 3p lrxkdb- < 20:35:11.456 >

Well whoop for you, your special. Want a cookie or something?

What's your max mana?

3355h, 2807m, 4122e, 5p exkdb<>-
The shadows weigh on your thoughts, draining your mental energies.
3355h, 1819m, 4122e, 5p

Max mana is 3888

Honestly, i know its supposed to be balanced at trans but damn it this is a class wide skill that is the main part of dancer offence, the mana instakill. Make it an affliction, make it on par with lash leech amissio.

Its rediculous and i hate it.

Sure you can make succumb the same as amissio lash or leech when you give me a class specific targeted aeon.

In sum. succumb is hitting for around 25% max mana with inept Magic. It can hit twice before it cures. 25% + 25% = 50% = toadcurse-able.

Now, that doesn't take into account banshee, redcap, barghest (focus body), pixie mana drains.



And then you can give me choke and brumtower.

Nah choke and brumetower make up for the moon curse, sure id swap them both for the curse for one on one fights any day of the week.

So lets see ill give up succumb and get aeon
you'll give up the curse for its equlivant of choke and tower?

You know while were at it lets make everyones attacks exactly the same and call it newbie kick

Make it do more to trans magic and less to inept is the only real fix you could do without changing the shadowdancer class completly.

of you could give it the same mana drain to everyone that it currently does now at trans.

I dont get it?

Make knights do the same ammout of damage to anyone that they currently do at trans resilience?

knights are a complicated different story.

That'd be fine with me actually, trans resilience or not i'd still work with it. Succumb should drain x% base plus x% maxmana on affliction, and then a flat x% per tick. If you can stick it on there you get a good affliction drain. That is easily powerful enoug.

Or how about we make other mana drains (amissio, leech, lash) depend on target's magic too, with current drain as a minimum (at trans).

Not sure if anyone posted yet but Amissio is 350 mana + 10% maxmana, Lash is 300 mana + 10% maxmana. Since no one has posted anything about Leech yet I'm assuming it's the same as Lash but you recover some of the mana back.

Incorrect. Amissio is 10%+250 mana, lash is 10%+300 mana, and leech...dunno but it probably sucks too.