Village junk

by Narsrim

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Unknown2006-03-23 18:16:10
Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure the change was made cause it seems to be the only way to positively affect villager feelings and thus have/keep villages.

Might be wrong and there's some actual RP reason to it, but I can't think of any myself.
Sylphas2006-03-23 18:23:51
Yeah, but it feels like metagaming to me. I'm sure you can explain it, and probably more than half-decently, but you can explain damn near anything if you try hard enough. I'd be perfectly happy if we were Religious, only had Estelbar, and banned anyone from visiting Astral, but that's never going to happen unless the game mechanics and human nature drastically shift. sad.gif
Daganev2006-03-23 18:46:04
QUOTE(Catarin @ Mar 23 2006, 09:30 AM) 272748

No, they were losing respect when Serenwilde was still religious.


Huh?

what I ment was that Ankgrak is owned by a Conquest nation. Villages in conquest nations repsect people who own villages and kill enemies.

Glomdoring has 0 villages, and thus is seen by Ankgrak to not be a group worth getting involved with more so than the other places.

Just a possiblity.
Catarin2006-03-23 18:51:33
Ahh, right. But Southgard is disrespectful as well and they're ruled by religious. Same goes for Delport. They were disrespectful to the glomdoring even when their rulers were religious.
Daganev2006-03-23 19:06:43
But arn't they equally disrepsectfull to everyone?

Although I assume they might be less disrepsectfull to Serenwilde and Magnagora since they are conquest and do own villages.
Catarin2006-03-23 19:12:38
No, they're not. Using pre-conquest Serenwilde Delport as an example it actually said "disrepectful" for Glomdoring and Neutral for Celest. There'd be no reason for a village ruled by a religious organization to be inherently disrespectful of an organization that didn't have any villages.
Daganev2006-03-23 19:23:58
except that I accidently killed a prospector goldigger and got enemied to delport.
Shorlen2006-03-27 00:09:06
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Mar 23 2006, 01:23 PM) 272756

Yeah, but it feels like metagaming to me.


Metagaming is all I've ever really seen many Serenwilders do sad.gif Perhaps I just don't know them that well, but that's how it always seemed to me. I just tried to not let it bother me much.
ferlas2006-03-27 00:41:20
Change organisation, it'll do you a world of good, one place wont remain interesting or fun for ever and when it gets boring or annoying just go try out some different places.
Diamondais2006-03-27 00:49:51
QUOTE(ferlas @ Mar 26 2006, 07:41 PM) 273829

Change organisation, it'll do you a world of good, one place wont remain interesting or fun for ever and when it gets boring or annoying just go try out some different places.

Its a good idea but you get a lot of dumb problems started because you do that. I hope nothing extends to OOC but its kinda disheartening to be hunted down I guess for those that get that type or just bothered because you left.
Sylphas2006-03-27 02:37:48
Sylphas will never leave. He loves Serenwilde; he could hate everyone in it and he'd still stay. Even if it would be interesting to be a Shadowdancer at some point. Won't happen.
Narsrim2006-03-27 04:27:50
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Mar 26 2006, 07:09 PM) 273809

Metagaming is all I've ever really seen many Serenwilders do sad.gif Perhaps I just don't know them that well, but that's how it always seemed to me. I just tried to not let it bother me much.


Says the Moondancers using a crow cloak which he stole.
Unknown2006-03-27 04:36:38
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Mar 23 2006, 06:23 PM) 272756

Yeah, but it feels like metagaming to me. I'm sure you can explain it, and probably more than half-decently, but you can explain damn near anything if you try hard enough. I'd be perfectly happy if we were Religious, only had Estelbar, and banned anyone from visiting Astral, but that's never going to happen unless the game mechanics and human nature drastically shift. sad.gif

I don't think its metagaming, its just a direction I wish we wouldn't go. I always thought of Serenwilde as not particularly caring when foreigners die, but not actually warring to conquer the minor villages.

Oh well. We'll see how it turns out, anyway. I'm surprised there hasn't been more in-game criticism of Serenwilde's stance - particularly from Glomdoring. It's an opportunity, for sure.
Shiri2006-03-27 04:44:05
I'm not sure what's to criticise. Serenwilde's never claimed to be pacifist.
Unknown2006-03-27 04:52:21
Didn't say that not being pacifist was the reason I disliked it. tongue.gif

I suppose the helpfile does say the nation leaders shouldn't consider the RP implications of government styles, that they shouldn't allow such considerations to limit their choices... so really there isn't any justification required other than that it is clearly the best style for getting a village.
Ashteru2006-03-27 05:06:22
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 27 2006, 04:27 AM) 273856

Says the Moondancers using a crow cloak which he stole.

Says the Moondancer who kills fae.
Narsrim2006-03-27 05:17:50
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Mar 27 2006, 12:06 AM) 273861

Says the Moondancer who kills fae.


Did you know a pigwidgeon thanked me for releasing it from its shadowy bonds? How about a pooka told me that he didn't want to go into Glomdoring.

Learn the histories before you mouth off as your ignorance is truly just an insult to yourself. The Fae are eternal spirits. They were given physical form by Ellindel Treeheart, first Moondancer champion and first Wiccan, as a means heal them.

If by killing that physical form and promptly restoring it, leading them away from eternal damnation and slavery, I'm doing (at least in my eyes and that pigwidgeon) a good thing. The physical shell can be restored. A tormented spirit cannot be so easily healed.
Unknown2006-03-27 05:21:14
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 27 2006, 05:17 AM) 273863

Did you know a pigwidgeon thanked me for releasing it from its shadowy bonds? How about a pooka told me that he didn't want to go into Glomdoring.

Learn the histories before you mouth off as your ignorance is truly just an insult to yourself. The Fae are eternal spirits. They were given physical form by Ellindel Treeheart, first Moondancer champion and first Wiccan, as a means heal them.

If by killing that physical form and promptly restoring it, leading them away from eternal damnation and slavery, I'm doing (at least in my eyes and that pigwidgeon) a good thing. The physical shell can be restored. A tormented spirit cannot be so easily healed.

I think Ashteru's point is that you can justify anything you like.
Narsrim2006-03-27 05:25:27
QUOTE(Avaer @ Mar 27 2006, 12:21 AM) 273864

I think Ashteru's point is that you can justify anything you like.


I dare anyone to try and justify using a Crow Cloak to Mother Moon, her avatars, and Lady Lisaera.

On the other hand, it wasn't my opinion that pooka or pigwidgeon wanted this or that. They TOLD me.
Unknown2006-03-27 05:26:55
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 27 2006, 03:17 PM) 273863

Did you know a pigwidgeon thanked me for releasing it from its shadowy bonds? How about a pooka told me that he didn't want to go into Glomdoring.

Learn the histories before you mouth off as your ignorance is truly just an insult to yourself. The Fae are eternal spirits. They were given physical form by Ellindel Treeheart, first Moondancer champion and first Wiccan, as a means heal them.

If by killing that physical form and promptly restoring it, leading them away from eternal damnation and slavery, I'm doing (at least in my eyes and that pigwidgeon) a good thing. The physical shell can be restored. A tormented spirit cannot be so easily healed.

I wish your allies would listen to you and cease their 'ignorance', as you put it. Killing fae in faethorn would be a lot less big a deal if they realized they can't be permanently harmed. smile.gif