I didn't. In fact, I got transcendent discipline before getting beyond Perceive.

At the moment, pooka/dominate >> possession. Last I heard, you could still pookaforce channel communication.

There is a defense against dominate, why isn't there a defense against pooka? Or at least, there should be a chance of resisting forcing that is variable like summoning, perhaps based on charisma and slightly inversely based on intelligence?

Or not. I'm not sure what stops dominate, or what all it requires, but I'd think a simple power cost or longish eq time would balance it. Pooka is random, and unless they either suck or you're able to trick them, you're almost stuck with only using things that don't require them to have balance, equilibrium, and in a lot of cases, power.

Fae in general really don't need toned down at all. I'm sure Narsrim could do terrible things to 99% of the population without anything but maybe a pooka. Hell, I suck, and I still managed to avoid dying to Ethelon and his fae when I got jumped while reading the forums.

A removable defense wouldn't be too much of a problem, and would stop a lot of the sneaky pookaforce disabling techniques.

Pooka is a 75% mythical ability. You can get dominate with your first pact. As such, it isn't very comparable.

Possess is a transcendant ability. You can't do half of the things you can with pooka.

No, but you can force multiple commands. I mean seriously, you could possess someone at their nexus, force them to remove fullplate, generosity, put fullplate in nexus. You can also mass vial sip for an instant win.

I would like to see pooka with a defense.

Either that, or severely limit what you can do with it, ie powerfeats. I agree it could use some attention.

I find the position of an offensive skill being used as justification for its lack of a counter a bit silly.

What would a defense sole? I mean, I strip the defense and could still do it. That thus does not address the underlying problem and is nothing short of a knee jerk.

Certain commands just shouldn't be forceable. Furthermore, pooka isn't the only force. Telepathy has a force skill. It has no counter either so really, addressing JUST pooka does nothing.

Well, I was thinking all forcing options should be counterable. You could strip the defense, yes... but you might have to take a bit more time to do so.

I also suggested an alternative which was to give all forcing a variable chance of resistance, like summon.

Or you could just stop the insane forces, like Trueheal. Every other hex I use shouldn't have to be sensitivity or something for my pooka to do anything.

There is a counter. A pooka dies in 3-4 hits. It then takes 12 seconds to get back in control after you spend power to summon it. In which time, it can easily die again.

Unless you manage to get criticals on it, in which case it can be one.

See i think deafness stopping it would be a good idea. You can still force people to do things its just a little harder.

Narsrim could still strip the def, and the defender could see what narsrim was up to and thusly avoid his forces.

Except for trueheal and sip vitae which are both lame, personally i think just make power feats unforcable and be done with it. Narsrim still has a good class to play, and everyone else isn't subject to rediculous things which make others want to quit the game.

Yes Murphy, your 3-hit combo and the 2-assault beheads are definately making doing something other than making people frustrated, angry, and want to quit.

I dont like the idea of a defence against pooka, just make it so power feats and focusing and stuff like canablaise mana are unforceable, I mean we cant force things like mages/druids breaking their cudgel or demensce because it would make us overpowered against them, I dont see how being able to to perform an instant almost unstopable toadcurse is allowable.

How exactly is an astrologer supposed to get rid of deafness? And for a healer to do it is totally infeasible, too. They have the skill but you can just put it up LONG before they get eq back.

And Nrsrim Murphy and all those that can behead in 2-3 hits already know it shouldnt happen. And we all wait for nerf. I dont use greatsowrd in most cases but katana to avoid stupid fast beheads.

The point I was making was that both are cheap. Both are wrong - and both need changed. This is literally the first time in six (irl) months, I have used cannibalize mana.

What upsets me is that Murphy was all like: oh ya, I'm going to use my uber cheap, broken combo this time.

He blatantly mouthed off that he was going to use something that he agrees isn't fair and isn't balanced. For his arrogance and bs taunting, I decided to teach him a lesson. If you want to be cheap, brag about being cheap - expect it in return.

Pooka with a defense would screw me over completely. I rely on it for the basic selection of commands that can give me an edge in combat that I don't normally have being a wiccan, and take that away, and most of my effective hindering goes byebye.

I'd just say widen the range of unforcable commands, not adding a pooka defense.