Morik's tip: Buy more credits and fund some more full-time coders!

I'll vote with my wallet in a couple days, its about time I bought a bloody cubix.

Did I tell you how much I love you? Oh, and I need surge.

Since when is Toadcurse an instakill? Or do you honestly stand there watching while Narsrim walks in with a pooka and starts icewalling? -confused-

It's annoying enough to lose all your defs.

Forcing canablise and toadcursing is cheap, stupid and unnescarry, we should not be able to force canablise. Thats all.

gee, stripping all your defs and making you killable in 1 stomp, and you can't swim as a toad either, that's bad enough.

You're so objective.

Have a cookie.

Since when did anyone ever die in one stomp? It takes me like four. Strength difference can't be THAT much.

And the not swimming thing is TOTALLY irrelevant and you know it.

EDIT: The pooka thing shouldn't be possible, but don't BS it so it sounds worse than it is. Come on. Toadcurse is hardly an instakill, it's more like an inquisition that it's harder to kill you during and with no stun.

It takes Ferlas 2 stomps to kill me, you know...and I'd like to say that I have a pretty high level.

I guess it's partially randomised then.

Furrikin men are weaker than the women. Get some training!

Oi! Maybe you're just tougher than the ones I do it on!

And that takes less time and power and - if used like this - is completely unavoidable.

So, better than inquisition.

I kill most in two to three stomps. And yes the swimming thing is totally relevant, you know how restictive it can be if you toad someone in a smart place.

Again instant toad curse like this is stupid and should not be done.

lyco> xeny
I dont think the people in the toadcurse thing know that we were in the water..
Apparently not.
thats a huge advantage visaeris
therefore making him not being able to swim away relevant
Well, they did at one point.
but Im not gonna post
so you post it
^^

I'm not trying to say this is ok, or that Toadcurse is total crap. I'd say it's on par with Inquisition (but easier) or a Thunderclap that leaves you at a couple hundred life (but easier). But it really isn't an instakill. You can avoid it. If you're instatoaded on the highway or something, you can conceivably get away.

... that strips all defenses.

Let's place me in the role of GenericNihilist for a moment, as they have the most obscene defenses. Ahem: "I just put up enigma, fool and scourged my demon. But then - OH NOES! - I was jumped by Narsrim, and instant-toadcursed. I lose enigma and fool, and while I'm hopping off he kills my demon."

21 power down the drain.

I like the way jack puts it, but on the other hand let me put it an other way.

No ones complaining about toad curse. People are complaing about instant toad curse.

Toad curse is fine.

Instant toad curse is stupid.

I always though toadcurse was the lesser form of absolve...

problem here was the forcing of a skill, not the accual toadcurse right?

*nod*
insta-toadcurse is the problem (which would be impossible without forcing of the skill)