So what? Turning around and using the same tactic doesn't make it any more convincing.

No quote... just your actions in posting that log.

It seemed you were using the "Mummy he did it first" argument.
Hardly convincing.

No, I was simply pointing of the hypocrisy in complaining about something being "cheap" and yet employing cheap tactics daily. Sorry if you missed that.

Yes, yes Assault and Thunderclap obviously compare to having this happen to you instantly

You feel your will manipulated by a pooka.
Clutching your temples, you squeeze your eyes shut and chant as your mental reserves are channeled into your body.
9311h, 1642m, 4359e, 3p, 30574en, 16802w xkdb<>-
Eyes flashing with anger, Narsrim points a finger imperiously at you and utters a series of guttural croaks. A strange thrumming fills your stomach, and you watch in horror as warts break out over your skin which then turns green and slimy. The world seems to suddenly become much larger...or are you becoming smaller? Hmm, why do you have a sudden
craving for flies?
1201h, 1201m, 1092e, 3p, 3865en, 3865w ex<>-
Ixion pronounces that Narsrim is under an ill omen, and you see a dark symbol flicker briefly upon his forehead.
1201h, 1201m, 1092e, 3p, 3865en, 3865w ex<>-northeast
There's water ahead of you. You'll have to swim in that direction to make it through.

And then having to sit there and watch yourself die, because there is nothing you can do.

It is also amuses me to no end that you continue to grasp at anything to discredit the complaint rather than actually commenting on the heart of the issue. It was never about you, it was about the tactic being possible.

Insta toad is far more powerful and far cheaper than three hit beheads.

Three hit beheads are getting looked at and fixed, pureblades and axelords admit its a problem but they will need upgrades in other areas to compensate. Pureblades and axelords have no other option to use other than behead or damage.

Instatoad cure is not needed to be used in anyway, we have many options that dosnt require us to be able to instantly toad people.

You can kill people very effectivly without insta toad cure, you cant kill people effectivly without behead as a pureblade or axelord.


Stop making pointless arugments, admit insta toad cure is cheap overpowered and should be nerfed if people arn't smart enough not to use it. If kids cant play nice with their toys they get taken away.

I find the pooka in general is too powerful, the possibilties of it are really quite insane. Take for instance setting up a double whammy sleep, wane until they are aeoned and insomnia is dropped, soon as they cure it you relax metawake and throw them both in one set, there is nothing you can do after this point but watch while you die. That is just one of the really powerful things it can do, aside from feats. Focus spirit, emptying vials, giving items, ect ect. The list goes on and on. They don't need to stop it using powerfeats, it needs to be changed in general to something different.

SomeOne please fix this utter bullcrap.

The forbidding depths of the Sea of Despair.
You can see no further.
6684h, 5995m, 4823e, 10p exkdb<>-
The forbidding depths of the Sea of Despair.
A wiccan broom floats here, vibrating with energy. Heir of Ellindel, Narsrim
D'cente`, Prefect of Crones is here, shrouded. He wields an athame dagger in his
right hand.
You can see no further.
6684h, 5995m, 4823e, 10p exkdb<>-
You feel your will manipulated by a pooka.
Clutching your temples, you squeeze your eyes shut and chant as your mental
reserves are channeled into your body.
9481h, 2797m, 4823e, 7p xkdb<>-
Eyes flashing with anger, Narsrim points a finger imperiously at you and utters
TOADCURSED TOADCURSED TOADCURSED
a series of guttural croaks. A strange thrumming fills your stomach, and you
watch in horror as warts break out over your skin which then turns green and
slimy. The world seems to suddenly become much larger...or are you becoming
smaller? Hmm, why do you have a sudden craving for flies?
1167h, 1167m, 1061e, 7p ex<>- (H- 5517) (M- 4828) (E- 3762)
You are a toad! The only thing you can do is move and ribbit.
1167h, 1167m, 1061e, 7p ex<>-
The forbidding depths of the Sea of Despair.
So far below the surface, the waters are dark and cold, lit only by the
occasional phosphorescent fish that glows a sickly blue. Rough, black sand
covers the sea bottom, mixed with what fragments of bone. Even the tiny bottom
feeders look twisted and unnatural as they skate along the seabed, devouring the
excrement floating down from above. The water itself feels slightly viscous and
oily against the skin, and powerful underwater currents course constantly
through the waters. A wiccan broom floats here, vibrating with energy.
You see exits leading northeast, southeast, west, and up.
1167h, 1167m, 1061e, 7p ex<>-
You are a toad! The only thing you can do is move and ribbit.
1167h, 1167m, 1061e, 7p ex<>-

I instantly died earlier to thunderclap because I was *gasp* 200 health below max. I guess you'll just have to get in line like the rest of us.

And how does that make instanttoadcurse ok? Didn't think so.

Stop abusing misweaves-- clearly an instanttoadcurse is not intended.

The tclap feature to Lusternia has a set damage based on % plus base, and was intended. Get a clue.

Whether it makes it ok or not aside, I'd like to see some actual backing for this statement. The instatoadcurse "feature" is "clearly" as much a part of Lusternia as ridiculous thunderclaps.

Boo hoo weep weep cry cry boo hoo.

As Narsrim said, wait in line, get yer ticket, cause its a long wait pal.

It has been in two envoy reports and hasn't changed so umm... its apparently not a misweave. And even if it was, you are violating forum policy by posting bugs then

I think this strategy should be issued in game, since it is no longer a one time thing but repeated abuse. And different to 2-hit behead and thunderclap, which are not organization-based, forced Cannibalize can only be used on necromancers and pose a serious threat to game balance.




While Celestines are safe from forced Cannibalize, you are not safe from forced Trueheal. It is not as severe as instant-toadcursed, I would think it is still very annoying. Although everyone has been nice so far and not forcing Trueheal since it is still considered a misweave/bad-design that ought to be fixed by the coming envoy changes.

Just few words.

DONT PLAY TO WIN FOR ALL COST!!

PLAY FOR FUN, YOUR AND OTHERS FUN.

People try not to use cheap tactics.

Dont fight eye for eye and he did it first so i can do it now. If he did it first, you DONT NEED to DO it too!!

I completely agree, as do most players I would guess.

But we don't live in a perfect world. As long as such strategies are there, no matter how cheap, people will continue to use them until the day the admin steps in.

That's not a 'misweave' though. Everything there is working as it is coded to. Piooka forced what Narsrim wanted it to, and you were toadcursed because you were 1/2mana. Nothing wrong with it, from a coding PoV. Might not be ideal, but there are so many ways to stop that happening in the first place. I don't think there's really much room to complain. All you have to do is be off-bal (sitting?) when Narsrim forces, and he'll be out 8 power and a few seconds of equilibrium. It also seems to be that this isn't going to be changed because it's been envoyed before and remains unchanged, thus it seems to be an intended possibility.

You could: Sit, shield, kill the pooka, attack Narsrim, etc

My god what a interesting idea, you'll note narsrim daevos does not do some of the exceptionally deadly cheap tricks to anyone that he could do being a titan and with his class. Why must you use the cheapist trick in the game on him?

Stop forcing for an insta toad curse it is the cheapist and most pointless combo in the game. There is no way you can ever justify using it so stop it.



Your not making much sense I can instantly toadcurse a necromancer no matter what if I tried there is very little you can do to truely stop it aside from not having the power to canablise. I dont think we even need to be able to force power feats either, its way to powerful.

So, people are supposed to stand-move-sit *every single time they do something*? What? They're not told when a pooka has control of their actions, they're not told when the pooka enters if it's cloaked, they're not told if Narsrim enters when he's cloaked. Are you supposed to spam IH for the rest of your IC life, in the hopes that you catch the pooka the moment it enters and manage to kill it before it gets control and Narsrim enters for the coup de grace? Really, I don't think so.

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And to quote someone who I believe hit the nail directly on the head: "People like him make it so you need stupid rules and regulations." I do have to ask how many things have been changed because of one or two people who knew something was wrong, and just went ahead and kept doing it anyways every chance they got?

Obviously, any GOOD fighter knows that the best way to fight is sitting down. Geesh.