Especially when I can't use my weapons when spawled on the floor, whether it be lying or sitting.

You obviously have no clue and aren't a good fighter so I'll explain:

When the person enters the room and forces (it fails) and toads (which fails as a result), they lose 8p. You can then instantly stand-and-kill. Crazy, but simply isn't it?

You obviously have no clue that if you don't know the person is coming, as long as they and their Fae are cloaked you've got no idea that you need to be sitting.

Wait, you do, because you use that very tactic...

You're on a loser with this one.

Ekard has amazingly cheap and stupidly overpowered combos, but does he do them no.

Daevos has amazingly cheap stupidly overpowered combos, but does he do them no.




Not true theres a way you could do it easily to make it so you didn't toad if the force failed.

Point being insta toad is wrong stupid and pointless, as soon as its removed the better because its apparent that some people refuse to regulate their own actions forcing the admin and coders to waste their time coding safeguards because people are to immature to have self restraint.

I wonder if Narsrim would enjoy it if nobody played the game but him anymore. I have a feeling he would.

Ixion knew I was coming. He was chasing me with Athana

I'm more than willing to stop cannibalize/toading when the thunderclaps stop. I'll gladly sacrifice my cheap tactic because quite honestly, I'm tired of walking into a room with 10 people and dying to 4 because rockslide/thunderclap instantly killed 7/10.

So... what? *You can and do use this on people in the Sea, whether they know you're coming or not.* I really hope you're not seriously suggesting that people sit down every time they move.

I'm sure...

I do believe it was you who said that the envoy changes are comming and you should be patient. And yet claim that envoys are not going to change toadcurse.. But I'm sure your more than happy to force it so that the admin have to waste their time fixing problems that your causing.

No. I'm suggesting that people shouldn't stand in a room unshielded for 12 seconds when I'm in the local area if its bothering them because it doesn't appear to be working out to their favor. Pooka isn't instant, I have to literally sent it in, wait for a while, call it back, and then catch them unprone/unshielded. If someone is moving around, it isn't very easy to do. I usually wait for them to stop moving, pop in, and go.

Ahh, yes. So the fact that you have to wait when they don't even know it is being done makes it all better. I understand.

Alright, here goes... Narsrim may be immature, but it is true that others use cheap tactics such as rockslide/tclap, or 2xlungehead+assault head for insta beheads, so Narsrim feels perfectly fine whoring his own little retarded combo. Someone needs to take the first step in not using their OP stuff... Daevos, stop usin T-Clap.. It's rediculous, and Narsrim, quit using your insta-toadcurse too. If you could be reasonable and say I am wrong, and will stop, and you should stop T-Clap too, we wouldn't think you were such a huge Cmon guys this is OOC, we're trying to have fun, not hate each other

Thing is daevos isnt using his cheapist skills. Daevos is using skills in a group that kill people easily, much like narsrim will use skills in a group that easily lock down and kill people. First point there is a defence against the mass aoe damage that can be used effectivly in combat, secondly mass aoe damage isnt instantly killing or incapatating you, thirdly it has a exceptional time limit.

Yes narsrim if you feel you must keep using the cheapist and most pointless tatic being used around at then moment, then im sure you wont object to daevos starting to do 6 assaults in a row againt you?

Defending this tatic in anyway is so foolish.

Admit it is a cheap stupid combo that shouldn't be done at all.

What I would love you to do narsrim is just say defending this tatic is stupid and I wont do it again, but if you cant have the self restraint to do that then I guess we will just have to wait until the pooka gets nerfed.

As there appears to be some confusion, I'm going to clean up Ciaran's post.

Someone needs to take the first step in not using their overpowered skills. Daevos, stop using thunderclap. It's ridiculous, and is going to be removed when envoys finish, so why use it now? Narsrim, quit using your insta-toadcurse too. If you (Narsrim) could be reasonable and say, "I am wrong, and will stop, and you should stop thunderclap too," we wouldn't think you (Narsrim) were such a huge . Come on, guys... this is OOC, we're trying to have fun, not hate each other.

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I often wonder about people who simply cannot read. I'm not "defending" the tactic. I have said countless times it is cheap. In fact, I reported it as an envoy to be changed not once but TWICE. I don't agree with it. I think it is cheap.

Daevos likewise agreed at the envoy summit Thunderclap was cheap. When asked what should be done with it, he agreed it should be totally removed because titans/demigods simply are too boosted.

You can call me on still using something I agree is cheap, but you cannot do so without calling Daevos on it too. You can attempt to make it seem like one is worse than the other. That's moot. If you are going to argue principle, then stick with it. Throughout this entire thread, you have done nothing but defend thunderclap and Daevos using it -even though he said it was cheap, unfair, and overpowered.

You likewise cannot grasp for some unknown reason that cannibalize/pooka has been reported. It was in former envoy reports. It simply hasn't got fixed yet - but the same goes with thunderclap and assault. Stop being a hypocrite.

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If Daevos (as I told him) will stop using thunderclap, I'll stop cannibalizing. If he is unwilling to "play fair" (as both tactics are certainly far from fair) then there is nothing more to say.

So stop using it Narsrim..

And we circle once more. Amusing it is that you tell me to stop using my cheap tactic, but as always, don't say anything to Daevos.

As I've said: I'm -not- going to stop using it until Daevos -stops- using thunderclap. Why? Because I don't have to stop using it because its not abuse just the same as Daevos doesn't have to stop using thunderclap - its a design issue... something I reported twice.

I think we've reached the point where Lisaera should lock the thread and call us all idots because this is getting nowhere.