And surge is impractical for use in PvP a considerable portion of the time (including speed knights using rapiers). This "upgrade" doesn't really change that in ANY way.

It's of use most often for hunting (where psiarmour is as well, is it not?). Psiarmour, robes, change your ego to health... and you're doing pretty darned well, especially when pointing your staff.

Duh. I was talking to Ixion, who seemed to think that it's possible to use it in PvP.

Well thats the point its about as useable in pvp as surge.

That's odd, Moondancers and Shadowdancers are affliction classes, and they both recieve bashing upgrades.

I remember Sarapis saying that the bashing ability of all IRE classes is supposed to be more or less balanced, regardless of the PvP potential. Especially in Lusternia I don't see any reason at all why the members of one class should be better bashers than those of another.

While nice in theory, it isn't true in a single IRE games. Monks for example >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other bashing class in Aetolia.

wardancer>>>>>>>>>>>>monk

Apparently you didn't read "in Aetolia."

Yeah, that wasn't even close to true in achaea, and they've certainly had the time to change that in that game and in the others. If bashing balance was the goal, it doesn't look like they've made much effort.

I did.. I was just flexing the superiority of the wardancer over the monk

It's dredgin out the complaints bout surge again, but it kinda gimped me too, not that i ever used it, i got it and then wound up grumbling, since ive picked the one race that gets to have no int, and medium-high con, so with 8 int, surge meant nothing at 50% and now its nothing ontop of medium-high con as 1/3rd, incase wonderin i am refering to orclach, who seem to be the not quite str and con enough to be a good dmg type (as opposed to your smarter -and- stronger -and- healthier Igasho & Tae'dae) , but not enough int to go magic, but with no specific benefits to go speed, kinda the half way there, but as with all ire's there never any benifit to going half assesed dmg/speed as a knight, i suppose here at least theres the dmg option

Dude... periods are your friends

Bah they're overrated *chuckle* especially in a rant

Stopping to breathe is never, ever overrated.

I jus always figured that if yer readin somethin and you dont stop to breathe if yah dont see a period.... i think you deserve to suffocate, aint yah lucky i jus added a few in there as an extended spacer


though i think the grammar whinin/responses is a bit off topic

I wish you'd said "Full stops", no matter how much easier and more correct it is to write "periods".

I was thinking exactly the same thing. *shudder*

And 'Full Stops' is clearly the more correct term.

Funnily enough, I was having to argue with some people over whether the game was called draughts or checkers earlier. (Obviously draughts won). We need to start a campaign!

As far as I've always known, period is the term for the english "." character, which represents the linguistic full stop. That's always why I've figured when refering to the end of a sentance in most other languages one'd use full stop (Because they don't have periods, but rather use other symbols to indicate a full stop, which they can also be called by.) or when refering to the actual stop itself, rather than the character. So in this term, being that they were telling them to add the character of a period to the end of the sentance, it would be period.
Full stop is just more common in brittish english sociolinguistics, while period is more common in american english sociolinguistics. Although it isn't exactly what they each mean. (I don't remember the correct word that I'd put there, but sociolinguistics is close enough I think.)

And that's my little linguistic rant, of which I'm most certainly wrong, that is only how it appears to me linguistically.

EDIT: I just looked it up, I guess in brittish english full stop means both the symbol and the stop.

Periods, checkers, and a translation:


*Note that I may or may not agree with the above translation, and I've found that it rambles rather excessively even though I attempted to reduce that.