Furthermore, if moonbursts are indeed arrows, then it would imply they are heat-seeking arrows. A Rage coven standing on the other side of Faethorn manages to hit Synl every single time with their moonbursts, despite Synl quite obviously standing far away and underneath a lot of trees. As such, it would imply that magical energy must always hit its intended target - either acrobats should not be able to dodge moonbursts at all, or everyone should have a chance of dodging moonbursts (or rather, the moonburst missing).

This moonburst aiming stuff is easily a contender for most inane discussion on an otherwise serious topic we've had in a long time. The way Synl's taking it as seriously as he is is pretty funny given his comments on other threads too.

Sure, let's make the moonbursts miss! And let's make all attacks have a chance of missing.

And so, we agree on what I was planning on manipulating you into agreeing on the whole time!

All non-power attacks should have an inherent miss rate.

(Also, Iasmos agreed with me, whereas only Lowe agreed with you. Therefore, I win this argument.)

(And I disagree with Iasmos, thus: I win. I believe that's how it works, right, Iasmos?)

Um, no? (Or, rather, I disagree that that's how it works...)

Can't you just INVOKE CIRCLE to stop a Rage coven? Or, like, go indoors? Tripleflash != your solution to all your problems.

What a retarded thing to argue about.

No, it doesn't. It being changed for "balance reasons" would be a point that stands, but this one doesn't-- because, well, if you're able to dodge an attack knowing where it's coming from, you're able to dodge an attack when you know where it's coming from.

For what seems to be mechanics reasons, it was coded so that distance attacks just all occur the same way, despite the fact that an intelligent character could easily put a few pieces of information together to figure out where future attacks are coming from based on the last ones. That's fine, but saying that someone with very fast reflexes and spending 10p to speed up those reflexes couldn't dodge when they have gained details on the attack patterns is incorrect.

Just not easy to code. And definitely not worth it.

The thing is, you have to know when yo use your 10p Skill. It's not a magical IWIN button. You dont see a blademaster starting a fight with haymaker and then posting on the forum about how it had no effect in the fight do you?

The point of not being able to dodge things you can't see coming isn't where they're coming from, it's when. If you want to dodge constantly in lieu of doing anything else, go ahead, but that's not Tripleflash. Otherwise, you can't always be dodging just because you know they're northeast of you. Geez.

How about "When they're attacking me"?

That was hard!

(And you don't see a Blademaster using haymaker at all, really.)

It's a good indication that they're coming "several times over the next minute". Spend the whole next minute dodging, fine. Spend some of it doing something else, then no, you don't have anywhere near a good enough sense of when. Feel free to get some friends with snowballs hiding behind trees to show you this if you don't believe me: you can dodge them all if all you're doing is watching for them, and you can dodge the ones that the guy who's out in the open is throwing at you, but you can't dodge the unseen ones coming at irregular intervals while you're also paying attention to throwing snowballs at the other guy.

I find myself bizarrely attracted to this debate.

But to rebut, I can't burn 10p to dodge snowballs. My character can.