Saran2008-07-15 12:12:36
QUOTE(diamondais @ Jul 15 2008, 09:44 PM) 532908
Ooh! Neato, I might have to bring my Spiritsinger to Hartstone to play around with this. 
Watches guild logs like a hawk
Diamondais2008-07-15 12:20:20
QUOTE(Saran @ Jul 15 2008, 08:12 AM) 532917
Watches guild logs like a hawk
You've met me already.
Achius2008-07-15 14:31:44
With the recent change to forging, do I still need to forge a pattern labeled as 'fullplate' to get the best armour after marking it? Or should I just keep reforging my fieldplate?
Desitrus2008-07-15 14:52:08
QUOTE(Achius @ Jul 15 2008, 09:31 AM) 532963
With the recent change to forging, do I still need to forge a pattern labeled as 'fullplate' to get the best armour after marking it? Or should I just keep reforging my fieldplate?
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Revan2008-07-15 15:32:11
yea, good luck EVER pulling off the runes instakill if you actually have to HAVE the afflicitons on you. Runes is, by far, the easiest skillset in the game to cure. Problem is, I have no idea how we can come up with a middle ground. It's too powerful if you just have to hit with the runes... far too weak if you have to have the afflictions.
Shiri2008-07-15 15:34:26
Keep in mind the balance was just boosted, supersling power halved so you can basically do it continuously, and blacktalon (guild most realistically likely to use it) already have faeling and sap. And you can maybe embed a couple like stupidity to screw around with sap curing. So maybe it's not TOTALLY out of the question. Other than that though, ehhhh.
Charune2008-07-15 15:39:05
QUOTE(Revan @ Jul 15 2008, 11:32 AM) 532979
yea, good luck EVER pulling off the runes instakill if you actually have to HAVE the afflicitons on you. Runes is, by far, the easiest skillset in the game to cure. Problem is, I have no idea how we can come up with a middle ground. It's too powerful if you just have to hit with the runes... far too weak if you have to have the afflictions.
Mages have the ability to use illusions to delay and trick people into curing other things. Druids can use it when their victim is sapped, a state in which they're likely not concerned with anything but escaping it.
If the envoys feel it needs to be adjusted, they're free to make suggestions with their normal reports.
Revan2008-07-15 15:44:26
illusions only work on people with REALLY bad systems. The ability to use illusions to delay and trick people is moot, unless you fix the code in illusions to make them not able to be ignored by systems at all. As far as the speed is concerned, you still cure very quickly. herb balance is fast, and with purgatives, curing runes is laughably easy.
As for druids... druids have ALWAYS had it easier than mages because of sap. Ignore druids and focus on mages, because sap just makes everything easier in regards to afflictions. Shiri alone brings up good points, so I guess we'll see how it stacks
As for druids... druids have ALWAYS had it easier than mages because of sap. Ignore druids and focus on mages, because sap just makes everything easier in regards to afflictions. Shiri alone brings up good points, so I guess we'll see how it stacks
Xavius2008-07-15 15:51:11
QUOTE(Revan @ Jul 15 2008, 10:44 AM) 532986
Ignore druids and focus on mages, because sap just makes everything easier in regards to afflictions.
This is basically what the envoys were instructed to do, and they said that they'd nerf sap if it ever got out of hand.
Which begs the question, why haven't any ecologists whored out the mantakaya fetish yet?
Charune2008-07-15 15:55:05
QUOTE(Revan @ Jul 15 2008, 11:44 AM) 532986
illusions only work on people with REALLY bad systems. The ability to use illusions to delay and trick people is moot, unless you fix the code in illusions to make them not able to be ignored by systems at all. As far as the speed is concerned, you still cure very quickly. herb balance is fast, and with purgatives, curing runes is laughably easy.
I disagree there, and believe it's doable to some degree. Most systems used by players these days may not fall for something like an aeon illusion, but there are a great many other ways that illusionists could exploit a system.
QUOTE(Revan @ Jul 15 2008, 11:44 AM) 532986
As for druids... druids have ALWAYS had it easier than mages because of sap. Ignore druids and focus on mages, because sap just makes everything easier in regards to afflictions. Shiri alone brings up good points, so I guess we'll see how it stacks
With regards to sap - I personally feel this will be stronger for mages than druids because of the prohibitive cost of sap and the ability of mages to illusion while they sling runes. This is just another way of finishing someone off without relying on cudgel.
Unknown2008-07-15 16:08:24
Nessa glares at you, gathering a handful of runes and crushing them, ominously staining the broken runes with her own blood. A fell wind sends shivers across your skin as Nessa cackles a foretelling of your imminent demise.
Nessa slings a haegl rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings a peorth rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings a beorc rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings an eohl rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings an othala rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Nessa points a crooked finger at you, croaking again the foretelling of your doom. Pain suddenly wracks your heart as the weave of Fate twists tight around your heart and it abruptly stops. You fall to the ground dead dead at Nessa's feet just as she has prophesied, her cruel cackling the last sound you hear.
You have been slain by Nessa.
(Bellator Societas): Kaervas says, "Aesyra has died mysteriously, as foretold by Nessa Falassion."
Cool stuff.
Nessa slings a haegl rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings a peorth rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings a beorc rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings an eohl rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
Nessa slings an othala rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Nessa points a crooked finger at you, croaking again the foretelling of your doom. Pain suddenly wracks your heart as the weave of Fate twists tight around your heart and it abruptly stops. You fall to the ground dead dead at Nessa's feet just as she has prophesied, her cruel cackling the last sound you hear.
You have been slain by Nessa.
(Bellator Societas): Kaervas says, "Aesyra has died mysteriously, as foretold by Nessa Falassion."
Cool stuff.
Gregori2008-07-15 16:09:06
I would say there is something wrong with this.
I don't want it to need all 5 affs to stick to pull off, otherwise it is useless, but I cured all 5 affs, so I would say there is issues with this skill.
Nessa glares at you, gathering a handful of runes and crushing them, ominously staining the broken runes with her own blood. A fell wind sends shivers across your skin as Nessa cackles a foretelling of your imminent demise.
» DEATH INCOMING
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:18.859 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a feoh rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.062 exk<>-
Nessa slings a feoh rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.546 exk<>-
smoke 27309
You smile with pleasure as you ram your fist into your jaw.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.843 exk<>-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
CURED masochism cured aff 1
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:24.265 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:25.250 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a tiwaz rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:26.640 exk<>-
Nessa slings a tiwaz rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.156 exk<>-
outr reishi
eat reishi
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 419.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.437 exk<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
CURED justice cured aff 2
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.765 exk<>-
You bleed 10 health.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:28.062 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:28.953 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a beorc rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:30.312 exk<>-
Nessa slings a beorc rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:30.890 exk<>-
sip phlegmatic
Nessa takes a drink from a garnet vial.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:31.171 exk<>-
You take a drink from a garnet vial.
CURED shyness cured aff 3
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:31.531 exk<>-
You may drink another purgative or curing potion.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:32.671 exk<>-
You bleed 1 health.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:33.734 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a lagu rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.031 exk<>-
Nessa slings a lagu rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.562 exk<>-
outr pennyroyal
eat pennyroyal
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 971.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.859 exk<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
CURED dementia cured aff 4
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:35.218 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:36.406 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a gyfu rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:39.187 exk<>-
Nessa slings a gyfu rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:39.734 exkp<>-
focus body
You begin focusing your mind on your motor skills.
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 28995w 09:59:40.046 exkp<>-
CURED paralysis cured aff 5
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29011w 09:59:41.203 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out an othala rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29011w 09:59:42.671 exk<>-
Nessa slings an othala rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
diag
Nessa points a crooked finger at you, croaking again the foretelling of your doom. Pain suddenly wracks your heart as the weave of Fate twists tight around your heart and it abruptly stops. You fall to the ground dead dead at Nessa's feet just as she has prophesied, her cruel cackling the last sound you hear.
You have been slain by Nessa. WTF???
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You have been defeated and are thrown out of the Arena.
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I don't want it to need all 5 affs to stick to pull off, otherwise it is useless, but I cured all 5 affs, so I would say there is issues with this skill.
QUOTE
Nessa glares at you, gathering a handful of runes and crushing them, ominously staining the broken runes with her own blood. A fell wind sends shivers across your skin as Nessa cackles a foretelling of your imminent demise.
» DEATH INCOMING
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:18.859 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a feoh rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.062 exk<>-
Nessa slings a feoh rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4932h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.546 exk<>-
smoke 27309
You smile with pleasure as you ram your fist into your jaw.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:23.843 exk<>-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
CURED masochism cured aff 1
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:24.265 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:25.250 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a tiwaz rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:26.640 exk<>-
Nessa slings a tiwaz rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.156 exk<>-
outr reishi
eat reishi
You remove 1 reishi, bringing the total in the Rift to 419.
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.437 exk<>-
You eat a reishi mushroom.
CURED justice cured aff 2
4332h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:27.765 exk<>-
You bleed 10 health.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:28.062 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:28.953 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a beorc rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:30.312 exk<>-
Nessa slings a beorc rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:30.890 exk<>-
sip phlegmatic
Nessa takes a drink from a garnet vial.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:31.171 exk<>-
You take a drink from a garnet vial.
CURED shyness cured aff 3
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:31.531 exk<>-
You may drink another purgative or curing potion.
4322h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:32.671 exk<>-
You bleed 1 health.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:33.734 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a lagu rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.031 exk<>-
Nessa slings a lagu rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.562 exk<>-
outr pennyroyal
eat pennyroyal
You remove 1 pennyroyal, bringing the total in the Rift to 971.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:34.859 exk<>-
You eat a bunch of pennyroyal.
CURED dementia cured aff 4
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:35.218 exk<>-
You may eat or smoke another herb.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:36.406 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out a gyfu rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:39.187 exk<>-
Nessa slings a gyfu rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
Sweat breaks out on your brow as you feel the dire weave of prophesy tighten around your soul.
» DEATH INCOMING
4419h, 6222m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29070w 09:59:39.734 exkp<>-
focus body
You begin focusing your mind on your motor skills.
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 28995w 09:59:40.046 exkp<>-
CURED paralysis cured aff 5
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29011w 09:59:41.203 exk<>-
Nessa shakes out an othala rune from her rune bag into her palm.
4419h, 5972m, 6504e, 10p, 22020en, 29011w 09:59:42.671 exk<>-
Nessa slings an othala rune at you, hitting you in the chest.
diag
Nessa points a crooked finger at you, croaking again the foretelling of your doom. Pain suddenly wracks your heart as the weave of Fate twists tight around your heart and it abruptly stops. You fall to the ground dead dead at Nessa's feet just as she has prophesied, her cruel cackling the last sound you hear.
You have been slain by Nessa. WTF???
**********************************************************
You have been defeated and are thrown out of the Arena.
**********************************************************
Unknown2008-07-15 16:16:00
Yes, it kills without the affs right now. It's bugged pretty badly in that regard, will hopefully be fixed soon though.
Gwylifar2008-07-15 17:08:55
QUOTE(Charune @ Jul 15 2008, 11:55 AM) 532991
I disagree there, and believe it's doable to some degree. Most systems used by players these days may not fall for something like an aeon illusion, but there are a great many other ways that illusionists could exploit a system.
The problem with illusions in combat for tricking systems is that they're untargetted and most combat is group combat.
Charune2008-07-15 17:19:59
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Jul 15 2008, 01:08 PM) 533010
The problem with illusions in combat for tricking systems is that they're untargetted and most combat is group combat.
While that's true, players can (and have) developed ways to, in effect, immunize themselves from their friends' illusions.
Like most insta-kills, this one will have a different method of setup in group fights. In fact, it should be a lot easier to achieve in a group because there would be more than one person afflicting.
Shamarah2008-07-15 18:50:56
I think the prophecy skill might (once the bug is fixed) be more feasible if more of the runes were cured by herbs. There are too many things in Lusternia that are cured by purgatives and you can't really stack herbs and purgatives at the same time.
Unknown2008-07-15 18:53:24
It's fixed.
Revan2008-07-15 19:07:25
have fun with that useless skill, mages! Druids, keep doing your OP saplock crap. Glad nothing changed 
PS: not saying the bugged version was fine... it just went from OP to completely and utterly useless
PS: not saying the bugged version was fine... it just went from OP to completely and utterly useless
Unknown2008-07-15 19:11:42
What if it was reverted back to the "bugged" version, but instead at the end, you've got say 5 seconds or so to run away instead of just instantly dying? Kind of like soulless.
That way, the instakill wouldn't be impossible to pull off, but it'd be more reasonable to avoid it.
Not sure how long the time you're alloted to get the next rune in really is, but perhaps you should look into shortening it as well if this is done.
Edit: Could also make focus spirit cure a deathprophesy 'charge' if really needed to put a bit more control back into the victim's hands. I mean, don't really need mana against druids/mages anyway.
That way, the instakill wouldn't be impossible to pull off, but it'd be more reasonable to avoid it.
Not sure how long the time you're alloted to get the next rune in really is, but perhaps you should look into shortening it as well if this is done.
Edit: Could also make focus spirit cure a deathprophesy 'charge' if really needed to put a bit more control back into the victim's hands. I mean, don't really need mana against druids/mages anyway.
Casilu2008-07-15 19:45:10
If they do the prophecy, and you cure the affliction, can they give it back to you later to make sure the kill happens?
