I had to delete my post and remind myself not to argue with people that post things like that.

You guys should make Alianna come back. Seren is in deep doo-doo with the current active druids.

amusing, you've still provided nothing to back up your claim of "Krellan can do it".

Krellan did what? mess with enemy groups? Manage to not disorient his group with them bouncing up and down, in what situation was raise cudgel this miracle you claim it to be? And are you balancing it for 1v1 or group situations?

I'm sorry if your simple statements do not offer enough information.

It's effectively like me saying Lich/Trueheal is op, without explaining why.

There are no "miracles" that can be performed with raise cudgel. Given that Krellan claims to manual everything, the closest he comes to "miracles" is if he was counting time in his head well enough to raise as the demesne fired. Celina just enjoys shooting her mouth off about things she has no clue over.

Raise cudgel had very limited uses and most of those relied on very good timing, much like every other portion of druid combat. This change (which by the way, the people raised can still beat the druids eq time) merely allows for a slightly less confined timing. In fact it changed the timing from precise to nearly precise.

I'm still wondering if she actually wrote a post or just claimed she deleted it. Can we beat them with racial and facepaint equi bonuses or still not?

I couldn't test an eq race not having a cameo anymore, but it's possible they can do it.


High Elfen Vernal Ascendant

Raise Cudgel times:

So we could potentially get a whole .04 seconds on them...

yay?

May be able to test later with equi race

Yea, but don't let Celina know. She will cry about it being OP.

well you've seen the revised op scale

Druids > Prenerf astral/aetherspace bashing >Monks > Warriors > Bards > Wiccans > Guardians

(nb got bored after druids so this may be incorrect )

edit: forgot the bashing bit

Raise cudgel is useful in demesne only, except maybe to piss someone off before you get lolganked. Druids don't need a buff in demesnes. They need a buff out of demesne. Whichever one of you druid envoys suggested that, way to stop your train of thought at "they need a buff."

When did I say OP? Your reading comprehension is horrible. Don't be a fool, stay in school!

"The cudgel change was unecessary." The two of you tardstones did a wonderful job showing why I won't argue with you though!

Should listen to Xavius.

I never said you did say it is OP. I said you will say it is OP. Speaking of reading comprehension....

Ah well, speaking of school... shouldn't you be off asking someone if they want fries with that?

Fry school? Interesting...

Yer funny. Too bad your envoy skillz don't match up with your l33t comic relief. When's Alianna coming back?

Wow...

This thread is for envoy reports, not for people bitching, take it somewhere else (although Gregori did make me laugh)

I think druids needs some kind of viability outside of Demesne, and I kinda get the feeling the only way they're going to get that is with some equivilent to psionics, Ecology doesn't cut it

I would definitely go to fry school, I want to learn how they make those yummy addicting curly fries.

Gregori has been shocked into an early grave by Krellan of the Murder.
You see the death occur at housing on parade.

Wow, indeed.

That's what happens when you don't go to fry school.

When I was talking about boosting up druids outside their demesne I vaguely remember... someone saying something like "You are uber in your demesne so that's your tradeoff"

Also Xavius if you want to get buffs through can you talk to your envoy, from what I can tell from reports they've missed the last one and haven't got anything up for this one.

Which has what to do with anything in the envoy reports?

Treant stopped curing for some unknown reason and I couldn't manual a sap lock. I suppose that's more of the mystical Krellan miracles though.

I see arguements of seren not having enough druids....
I offer a solution......