Probably about as much as your "fry school."

Sap lock in group combat?! You could learn a thing or two from him. Krellan4HartstoneEnvoy. I think it's a miracle that you are complaining that druid's need buffs yet he, without a system, beat you...with a system.

You know I am not sure which is sadder... the fact you didn't get the insult to begin with or the fact you continue talking like you know something. Please continue though. Your level of fail just amazes me more and more.

(Not to mention the blatant personal attacks.)


(...and I cured extremely well in sap until Eamon's persistence got the better of me.)

wasn't actually the sap that did it. For some reason it just stopped focusing body. Pulling the log to send you, but I can't honestly see why it just decided not to focus anymore.

It was a bad joke. Poorly worded. So I'm making fun of you for it. Thought you had caught that by now.





MIRACLES DO EXIST!

It's because it's christmas time.

Do you have any proof that Krellan used raise cudgel in this fight, cause you know your claim of miracles is based in his use of that ability.

Also Celina try to remember there is this little guild called the blacktalon, you were probably a member once(or thrice) surprisingly they, just like the hartstone, have an envoy.

Perhaps we should be looking at the seemingly inactive druid envoy. I know it's a weird thought but surprisingly in communes there is generally more than one envoy per skill.

I was druid envoy for...well, for longer than I remember, and longer than most envoys were envoys in any guild. I stayed long enough to see a major round of mage/druid tertiary upgrades go through, and went fully inactive once that was done. That being said, it's easy enough to keep up with this thread, and likewise easy enough to see when an envoy either fails to think things through or has decided that the self-buff race that made the envoys a lot like bashing your head against a brick wall is more important than game balance. Gregori's got a brain, so if you say that it wasn't the Blacktalon envoy that did it, it's Gregori being selfish and lame as envoy. No matter how not-OP the buff may or may not be, it's a buff that makes zero sense in terms of game balance.

You can see for yourself Xavius, the blacktalon have not even put a report up in the last... what 40 reports?

=NotMyProblem

It's other people's turn to make their own mistakes in their own way. It's what Glomdoring always wanted.

Report before last:
Report #54 Skillset: Influence Skill: None
Guild: Blacktalon Status: Rejected

That was like... give influence something that gives +1 cha

Woops, I accidentally missed one directly after that which was a crow buff. Still, they've been submitting, they just skipped a month.

Really? I saw two or three groups of submissions from the other guilds between the end of the list and the last one submitted

Expect a new way to search reports and a new report organization coming soon.

My month?

For amusement, I'll argue this point. Either Krellan sap locked Gregori without cudgel, thus proving the change not needed or he used raise cudgel to defeat Gregori, thus performing said miracle thus giving you the proof you so desire. Woo! It's win win (for me).

What do the BT or my guild choice have to do with anything? BT didn't envoy it and you trying to discredit me via the "guildhopper" argument is amusing. I would call that a Gregori tactic.

And again, the BT's lack of an active envoy isn't a defense for envoying pointless and, as Xavius has said, selfish buffs. Could have envoyed something to help druids out of demesne...which is what they need! Trying to distract people with finger pointing at the BT is just that...a distraction. If I had said "God, envoys aren't buffing druids fast enough," then you might have a point.

Druids need more out-of-demesne offense

No wai, Krellan convinced a druid to fight in the treetops? Who would have thunk

Also complete and utter failure as the proof I asked for was to back up your first point that people can do great things with raise cudgel and this example clearly states that he didn't use it.


It was more because your entire focus has been on a single envoy ignoring the fact that Gregori is A druid envoy not the druid envoy.



If it was truly pointless than or unrequired then the other envoys should have stated so especially an envoy who is going to be affected by the change.

I'm fairly sure you have actually complained about buffing druids out of demesne, though I could just be assuming you would.

Mm, no. That example clearly stated that I didn't know if he did or not, and that it didn't really matter. I don't need to prove that Krellan used raise cudgel. People that have fought Krellan just kind of know, and anyone with a single brain cell's worth of combat knowledge can see how it's helpful. Well...apparently not you or Gregipoo.

Hrm, you're having some difficulty. Gregori, not the BT, envoyed the change thus making the BT irrelevant to the discussion. If a change was not necessary, then the envoys not involved (the BT) really have no blame.

Why would they stop you from wasting an envoy slot? Sure it makes your combat a bit easier, but it's not game breaking. If you and Greg want to continue to limit druids to demesne combat and your easy buttons, go for it. Easier for us to deal with, that's for sure.

Nope! I've opposed it at one point because I was of the opinion that druids had the best demesne and thus should suck out of it, but my opinion has changed since then. Kind of irrelevant to the discussion, but oh well. I figure I can humor you a bit.

Pulling out the "whiner" card now? Must be running low on actual arguments. There's a term that means attacking the person rather than the points being raised. I'm too lazy to look it up though.

I think we've spammed these boards enough. You can post again, we'll call you the winner, and we'll leave these poor folk alone.

But then they'd lose a lot of the power in their demesne, and just becomes Mages of the Forest.

I'll give them Telepathy/Telekinetics if I can have actual power in my demesne where it doesn't revolve around staying alive long enough for hunger/tiredness to kick in so I could chasm.