I would have personally preferred Shrine protection to stay as it was, I even said so on the report. Mostly because I didn't want a Shrine power changed to something that's only useful against 2:5 classes, instead of being useful against all. I personally am not bothered a whole lot by warriors and monks will with luck be fixed soon anyways.

Don't be overly dramatic. I never said the admin were the root of all evil. I said that affording a new mechanic to a single bard guild and then doing otherwise to another has resulted in an inequality that is evident (and this being the root of why Cacophony sucks).

I also wonder what constitutes a "major problem." I'm not aware of any combatants in Lusternia who would suggest Cacophony are anywhere near on par with Spiritsingers. Not one. I likewise imagine Charune feels the same because he seems to have a strong combat sense to him.

A major problem in my opinion is one that would require a complete overhaul. As pointed out above, I think the theme and structure (or mechanics, if you want) of the Cacophony are sound, and any tweaks needed to bring them on par could be done through the envoy process. I never suggested that the Cacophony may not have any issues--I have simply said it doesn't necessarily require a special report to resolve those issues.

Envoy report #122 for the Harbingers has been rejected by the Furies. Please see the decision comments for details.

Furies' Decision:
We do not find this necessary.

Not understanding this at all. Nobody had ANY problem with it. The RP folks really wanted this change, and I took an envoy slot to go for the change, which would have made the skill viable versus...pointless.

I'm assuming the translation of this is "It would require coding effort and we don't want to invest that."

Lesson learned: Don't bother envoying for anything beyond combat. RP is just a waste of an envoy slot.

The envoys could theoretically submit twenty separate reports in a month all dealing with Necroscream and Cacophony.

And to piggyback on what Estarra said - the envoys could theoretically submit twenty separate reports in a month all dealing with Necroscream and Cacophony. It was not unheard of in past years for envoys to give suggestions to other envoys to submit, especially if they had a lower priority idea. If a majority of envoys agree something needs fixing as well, they can even submit outside the report system. Another special report shouldn't be necessary to address the issues.

I totally 100% agree with you. However, there are like 5 of us and we don't think we could even justify asking all the mag envoys to help us out, not to mention everyone in the basin.

We'll keep working on it though and see what we can come up with. All the feedback we've gotten is extremely helpful.

I'm still waiting for the enhancement change from two months ago...

The herb bane nerf didn't need a regular/special report to come in, just most envoys agreeing it had to be changed, so did the buff to carillonknell, I believe.

Also, woo, most dodging and available-to-all passive curing must go go go.

A major problem in my opinion is one that would require a complete overhaul. As pointed out above, I think the theme and structure (or mechanics, if you want) of the Cacophony are sound, and any tweaks needed to bring them on par could be done through the envoy process. I never suggested that the Cacophony may not have any issues--I have simply said it doesn't necessarily require a special report or huge sweeping changes to resolve those issues.

Furies' Decision:
We do like these solutions but pending a new admin report we're interested in
replacing the functionality of Hyperactive.

Choke will be even more OP in some situations now. Classic.

Report #119 Skillset: Night Skill: Choke
Guild: (None) Status: Approved Jan 2009
Problem: We have given the envoys six months to address issues regarding choke. Since we have not yet received any ideas that were satisfactory or truly addressed the issues, we are looking on implementing our own ideas but are leaving it up as a report for the envoys to comment on.

Solution #1: It would be a swirling shadow miasma around the room so it wouldn't affect anyone inside it. Any enemies who enter the room would be hit by blackout and aeon. Any enemies who leave the room would also be hit by aeon and blackout plus a 50% chance of ending back in the choked room.
Solution #2: Change to a targetted skill that chokes an opponent (giving the same uncurable aeon-type effect but not a separate ailment). **This only chokes the target, NOT the caster.** There is no defense and no cure. The choke lasts for ten seconds or until the opponent or caster leaves the room, whichever comes first.
Solution #3: Change so Choke acts as an uncurable aeon affliction. **This chokes BOTH target and caster.** Can have multiple targets per caster. Lasts until one and a half minutes expires, the caster and target are separated for at least a half second, or the caster dies.



Furies' Decision:
Solution #3 to work in the following manner - caster and target will see the source/target of the choke, but the room will only see that a choke has been cast.