Xenthos2009-05-27 21:38:23
QUOTE (Razenth @ May 27 2009, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I often find myself in the uncomfortable situation of needing to stop a tumble, like say when Aison is judging and Sidd is tumbling and I'm frantically trying to figure out how to stop it. Talkan and others have advised me to smack fear on them. Obviously this won't work against half the Basin, but at least it was something because I could try and force movement. Right now, I'm not sure what I can do.
You do what everyone else does... move to the next room and wait for them to arrive?
Razenth2009-05-27 21:42:20
Um, did you even read my post?
Unknown2009-05-27 21:43:25
I'm sure he did, but you missed his point. You're not supposed to stop a tumble. 
Xenthos2009-05-27 21:43:31
QUOTE (Razenth @ May 27 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, did you even read my post?
Yes.
I just don't think you quite get the point of tumble. If they're successfully tumbling out and you can't stop it, you need to try to stop them from starting another tumble in the next room. You can't always kill someone without doing a little chasing.
(Why must you ninja me, Iasmos?
)Everiine2009-05-28 03:29:41
He does have a point. With every other skill, if it can't be stopped there is murderous outcry on the forums about why Person A can't stop Person B, therefore, Person B is OP and needs to have their skills nerfed.
Xenthos2009-05-28 03:32:32
QUOTE (Everiine @ May 27 2009, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He does have a point. With every other skill, if it can't be stopped there is murderous outcry on the forums about why Person A can't stop Person B, therefore, Person B is OP and needs to have their skills nerfed.
This one doesn't kill you, though, and it doesn't really protect you. You show up in the next room off-balance, so if someone's smart they are there waiting for you on the other side.
Xavius2009-05-28 05:59:05
QUOTE (Xenthos @ May 27 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This one doesn't kill you, though, and it doesn't really protect you. You show up in the next room off-balance, so if someone's smart they are there waiting for you on the other side.
Nerf trueheal/lich?
Xenthos2009-05-28 11:19:52
QUOTE (Xavius @ May 28 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nerf trueheal/lich?
I think Trueheal does, in fact, protect you!
You could make a case for lich either way, depending on area and how far you manage to run before reforming.
Shaddus2009-06-04 16:36:32
Forget if this is where this goes, but oh well.
QUOTE
ANNOUNCE NEWS #1334
Date: 6/4/2009 at 16:32
From: Charune, the Horned One
To : Everyone
Subj: Envoy Changes May 2009
=== May 2009 Envoy Reports ===
o There is now a ten second delay between when you can disenchant
sigils.
o The weapon stat penalty for Deathmark(Necromancy) has been very very
slightly reduced. In addition, there is now a small chance to afflict
with a plague affliction, rate proportional to deathmark level, on
knight attacks. In addition, wound detection has been added to Deathmark
Sense.
o BenignProphesy(Runes) has been changed to give a temporary boost to
maximum health to allies in room.
o The demigod essence loss for ego burnout has been halved.
o Drawdown(Moon), Nightkiss(Night), Crowform(Crow), and Stagform(Stag)
will not drop when defenses do.
o Ectoplasm(Necromancy) can now affect liches.
o Chop(Environment) will always only require one chop for saplings in
non-natural forests, 2 otherwise, regardless of axe stats.
o CollapseLungs(Pureblade) is now a heavy wound requirement instead of
critical.
o Pathtwist(Druidry) now costs 6 power instead of 4. In addition, it
will decay after a few hours.
o Pentangle, Hexangle, Largo, and Vivace now stay twice as long as
before.
o Infiltrate(Stealth) is no longer aggressive and adds a line to
diagnose on the target.
o Endurance is now drained when put asleep forcefully, preventing
instant waking from sleep.
=== Misc Bugfixes ===
o Blocking Firm now works correctly.
o Love potion is no longer cured by random affliction curing such as
Drink, Sweetfount, or Allheale.
o Passive effects from bard songs will no longer take effect while the
bard is out of phase (such as with Nature or Statue illusions), though
the song's time will still keep ticking down.
o Cartel stamps will no longer show for cartels run by administrative
characters like the Norns.
o Cartel stamps will be correctly capitalized and show the craft type.
o If you die while destroying a statue or painting, the process will
stop.
o Keg and cube runes should show correctly on ARTIFACT LIST now.
o Miscellaneous typo fixes.
Enjoy!
Date: 6/4/2009 at 16:32
From: Charune, the Horned One
To : Everyone
Subj: Envoy Changes May 2009
=== May 2009 Envoy Reports ===
o There is now a ten second delay between when you can disenchant
sigils.
o The weapon stat penalty for Deathmark(Necromancy) has been very very
slightly reduced. In addition, there is now a small chance to afflict
with a plague affliction, rate proportional to deathmark level, on
knight attacks. In addition, wound detection has been added to Deathmark
Sense.
o BenignProphesy(Runes) has been changed to give a temporary boost to
maximum health to allies in room.
o The demigod essence loss for ego burnout has been halved.
o Drawdown(Moon), Nightkiss(Night), Crowform(Crow), and Stagform(Stag)
will not drop when defenses do.
o Ectoplasm(Necromancy) can now affect liches.
o Chop(Environment) will always only require one chop for saplings in
non-natural forests, 2 otherwise, regardless of axe stats.
o CollapseLungs(Pureblade) is now a heavy wound requirement instead of
critical.
o Pathtwist(Druidry) now costs 6 power instead of 4. In addition, it
will decay after a few hours.
o Pentangle, Hexangle, Largo, and Vivace now stay twice as long as
before.
o Infiltrate(Stealth) is no longer aggressive and adds a line to
diagnose on the target.
o Endurance is now drained when put asleep forcefully, preventing
instant waking from sleep.
=== Misc Bugfixes ===
o Blocking Firm now works correctly.
o Love potion is no longer cured by random affliction curing such as
Drink, Sweetfount, or Allheale.
o Passive effects from bard songs will no longer take effect while the
bard is out of phase (such as with Nature or Statue illusions), though
the song's time will still keep ticking down.
o Cartel stamps will no longer show for cartels run by administrative
characters like the Norns.
o Cartel stamps will be correctly capitalized and show the craft type.
o If you die while destroying a statue or painting, the process will
stop.
o Keg and cube runes should show correctly on ARTIFACT LIST now.
o Miscellaneous typo fixes.
Enjoy!
Daganev2009-06-04 16:58:37
QUOTE
o Drawdown(Moon), Nightkiss(Night), Crowform(Crow), and Stagform(Stag)
will not drop when defenses do.
will not drop when defenses do.
When do they drop?
QUOTE
o Endurance is now drained when put asleep forcefully, preventing
instant waking from sleep.
instant waking from sleep.
Is that an insane buff or a bug fix?
Unknown2009-06-04 17:04:25
QUOTE (daganev @ Jun 4 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When do they drop?
Is that an insane buff or a bug fix?
Is that an insane buff or a bug fix?
It's both- and it's not a lot of endurance. The problem was, sleep condition kills couldn't be pulled off because people would instantly wake once past level 80. So by draining a nominal amount of endurance, it makes even someone who doesn't tire naturally "sleep" to regain the endurance.
..at least, that's how I understand it.
Nyir2009-06-04 17:09:17
The change to benign prophesy is good, but for 5p, it really should last a bit longer than two minutes.
Unknown2009-06-04 17:09:54
QUOTE
Drawdown(Moon), Nightkiss(Night), Crowform(Crow), and Stagform(Stag)
will not drop when defenses do.
will not drop when defenses do.
I find this slightly hilarious since whenever I complained that OPEN CHANNELS should either have a reduced power cost or be free, and the general response was "You shouldn't feel like you should always have that up."
QUOTE
Syntax: OPEN CHANNELS
Power: 10
This power will open up aetheric channels between you and summoned planar entities. Once such channels are open, you will not use any equilibrium when summoning (though you must have equilibrium).
Power: 10
This power will open up aetheric channels between you and summoned planar entities. Once such channels are open, you will not use any equilibrium when summoning (though you must have equilibrium).
Xiel2009-06-04 17:15:31
I don't get what's funny about the change. D: Damn school messing with my humor detection. Anyways, the change addresses these defs no longer dropping on death.
Edit:I sense new AB info. Updates on BenignProphesy, DeathWeapon, and Pathtwist, please!
Edit:I sense new AB info. Updates on BenignProphesy, DeathWeapon, and Pathtwist, please!
Daganev2009-06-04 17:17:54
QUOTE (Rainydays @ Jun 4 2009, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's both- and it's not a lot of endurance. The problem was, sleep condition kills couldn't be pulled off because people would instantly wake once past level 80. So by draining a nominal amount of endurance, it makes even someone who doesn't tire naturally "sleep" to regain the endurance.
..at least, that's how I understand it.
..at least, that's how I understand it.
Ok. So its not affecting metawake, or Kafe right?
Meaning, its really just fixing a bug that you didn't require kafe once past level 80?
Unknown2009-06-04 17:18:42
QUOTE (Xiel @ Jun 4 2009, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't get what's funny about the change. D: Damn school messing with my humor detection. Anyways, the change addresses these defs no longer dropping on death.
I'm at work so I didn't want to get on the game, but I went ahead and connected...the wording in the announce post is slightly unclear. It says they aren't dropped when defs are dropped (ie, logging out).
The actual report specified death, which is the same as channels.
So that's fine.
Xiel2009-06-04 17:21:52
Mmhmm. They'd drop on logout like everything else, I think.
Unknown2009-06-04 18:37:36
Sleep change doesn't touch metawake or kafe, just means that you don't wake instantly if you're fully rested now, making sleep tactics a bit more viable.
The 10p commune skills just don't drop on death now, still fades on logout.
It'll be fun getting hit by BC Necros with knockdown/dulak/manta/scabies/epilepsy btw. Though I hear the actual % for contagion affs is fairly low, so that's comforting.
The 10p commune skills just don't drop on death now, still fades on logout.
It'll be fun getting hit by BC Necros with knockdown/dulak/manta/scabies/epilepsy btw. Though I hear the actual % for contagion affs is fairly low, so that's comforting.
Krackenor2009-06-04 18:38:31
QUOTE
o The demigod essence loss for ego burnout has been halved.
Um...yay? I thought the problem was that experience loss on top of losing an entire skillset for 40 minutes was was excessive.
Xiel2009-06-04 18:48:56
QUOTE (Sojiro @ Jun 4 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It'll be fun getting hit by BC Necros with knockdown/dulak/manta/scabies/epilepsy btw. Though I hear the actual % for contagion affs is fairly low, so that's comforting.
Even with a fully powered Mark? Considering that (or, I think it was) 5 little freeze touch things powers up a Mark fully, if that initial little rate bumps up considerably, 5/6 affs in two swings (at ~3s for two swings) is reaching really, really far.
