ENVOY REPORTS

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Forren2006-10-03 00:16:31
An ability in arts cures phantom.

Reality is a room-wide affliction generator thing, like phantoms but for multiple people.
Unknown2006-10-03 00:17:09
QUOTE(Forren @ Oct 2 2006, 05:16 PM) 338043
Reality is a room-wide affliction generator thing, like phantoms but for multiple people.


Does it stack with phantoms?

Sylphas2006-10-03 00:18:41
Focus spirit doesn't cure phantoms, not that I've ever heard. Though it does take a quarter of your mana. If you focus spirit each time, you'll run out of mana really fast.

Reality is sort of like Ancestralcurse. Enemies in the room start being hit by periodic afflictions.

QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Oct 2 2006, 08:17 PM) 338044


Does it stack with phantoms?



Pretty sure it does, since it's not phantoms.

Unknown2006-10-03 00:20:27
All druids on this thread need orange cream smoothies to calm down. tongue.gif

I do have to agree, there are skill sets out there who's power skills are mostly defensive, and lack strong offensive ones, or combinations of offensive skills, offence should = defense and thus it's ok right? No the problem lies that while the defensive person heals himself faster or lasts longer the offensive person will be attacked less, just because he's set his opponent on the defensive, the offensive person’s build in defense is that he’s messing up his opponent enough that he himself doesn’t get hit as often. That's why defensive/supportive skill sets will always be far weaker than other skill sets, Healing comes to mind, so does Stag, to a lesser degree moondancer wicca vs shadowdancer wicca as well.

@ Forren: We actually mentioned that, it's the 8p trans skill that cures it.

@ Guido: Esentially Reality is Moondance dark/ancelstral curse, but for less power, which is why the druids are flustered. Reality Check is the command your thinking of(skill's call ILLUSIONS actually), that's in Discernment 0% Expert, I think, closelist bumped it up. It's the equivalant of Chop at 50% Gifted Enviroment (unless that got pushed down with mountaneering?) man my skill lists are out of date.
Unknown2006-10-03 00:38:20
Focus spirit does not cure phantoms. Only Critique - the trans art skill does. Oh, and I think mages can cure themselves for no power.
Genos2006-10-03 01:10:00
QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 2 2006, 08:38 PM) 338050

Focus spirit does not cure phantoms. Only Critique - the trans art skill does. Oh, and I think mages can cure themselves for no power.


They can if their skill in Illusions is equal to or higher than the skill of the person who used Phantoms on them. Also, friendly mages can also dispell the Phantoms on you if they meet the above criteria.
Xavius2006-10-03 05:45:51
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Oct 2 2006, 07:17 PM) 338044

Does it stack with phantoms?


Yes, and both cost 8p to remove. Seperately, mind you.

That having been said, I still think that the reality change is a good one. Reality cost too much. I've also been griping about phantoms for a long, long, long time. Phantoms needs some kind of a power cost, and critique's power cost needs to go down fairly substantially.
Daganev2006-10-03 05:59:00
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 2 2006, 10:45 PM) 338153

Yes, and both cost 8p to remove. Seperately, mind you.

That having been said, I still think that the reality change is a good one. Reality cost too much. I've also been griping about phantoms for a long, long, long time. Phantoms needs some kind of a power cost, and critique's power cost needs to go down fairly substantially.


Like 3 power instead of 8... nasty thing.
Shorlen2006-10-03 12:41:57
QUOTE(Xavius @ Oct 3 2006, 01:45 AM) 338153
Yes, and both cost 8p to remove. Seperately, mind you.

That having been said, I still think that the reality change is a good one. Reality cost too much. I've also been griping about phantoms for a long, long, long time. Phantoms needs some kind of a power cost, and critique's power cost needs to go down fairly substantially.

I still think Critique should cost far less and only remove one illusion, or something...
Geb2006-10-03 13:07:10
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 3 2006, 01:20 AM) 338046

@ Guido: Esentially Reality is Moondance dark/ancelstral curse, but for less power, which is why the druids are flustered.


That is incorrect. Reality is far inferior to those skills. It gives out mainly afflictions with a fear component. Besides the possibility of causing some people in a group to run off in fear, it really was not worth the 10 power cost it had.
Ixion2006-10-03 13:41:05
Regarding phantoms, I've been saying Focus Spirit should cure it too. The fail rate on FS is not insignificant and costs a lot of mana. Then phantoms could remain a no power skill and would be more balanced.
Gwylifar2006-10-03 15:10:56
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Oct 2 2006, 06:32 PM) 338008

Yeah, because you so needed to be able to destroy my ENTIRE OFFENSE with a passive effect. rolleyes.gif


Yeah, that's only for warriors. biggrin.gif
Reiha2006-10-03 16:02:41
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Oct 3 2006, 03:41 AM) 338227

I still think Critique should cost far less and only remove one illusion, or something...


QUOTE(Ixion @ Oct 3 2006, 04:41 AM) 338239

Regarding phantoms, I've been saying Focus Spirit should cure it too. The fail rate on FS is not insignificant and costs a lot of mana. Then phantoms could remain a no power skill and would be more balanced.


Both sound very good, a reduction in arts would be good for those not so combat oriented and focus spirit for those who are.
Unknown2006-10-09 07:10:06
Just a reminder, now that every nation has illusions, and I'm planning on taking it - please fix phantoms. Give it the powercost it deserves.

And not to mention transmigrate, which all envoys had agreed needed some kind of balancing limitations.
Sylphas2006-10-09 11:15:54
QUOTE(Avaer @ Oct 9 2006, 03:10 AM) 340666
Just a reminder, now that every nation has illusions, and I'm planning on taking it - please fix phantoms. Give it the powercost it deserves.

And not to mention transmigrate, which all envoys had agreed needed some kind of balancing limitations.


QFT.
Shorlen2006-10-10 01:03:44
Transmigrate effects in general need a nerf, and transmigrate itself needs something that gives a bonus beyond the transmigration effect, like darkrebirth has.
Acrune2006-10-10 01:07:15
I still insist that phantoms aren't worth power. I don't have as much as a problem with transmigrate as I do with lich. With transmigrate, if I kill you, you're GONE. Unlike lich, where you have to kill everyone twice, making for much more annoying raids.
Ildaudid2006-10-10 01:20:42
Phantoms go through ghost, nuff said blink.gif
Unknown2006-10-10 01:23:52
I'd be happy with darkseed/scarab costing no power. halo.gif

I'd be unbalanced, but happy.
Forren2006-10-10 01:35:58
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 10 2006, 01:20 AM) 340994

Phantoms go through ghost, nuff said blink.gif


Really odd. Might want to envoy that.