Well, envoys are hitting and illusions are being changed. Something I'm a bit curious about, is what is deemed "acceptable" for an illusion? Can you illusion a prompt? I mean, that's completely OOC, so how would your character know how to form and create such a concept...? How about an illusion that has you being struck down by lightning, and "feeling yourself charring," when in fact it's really just an illusion and there is no such feeling at all, and obviously you're not dead?

Is there any kind of a line at all which illusions aren't supposed to cross, or are they meant to be a completely metagaming skillset, when it comes to combat?

I wouldn't start this debate, as long as you aren't illusioning credits or the like, everything else is fair game, think of it as messing with your relexes in your head to mess you up.

Agreed with Murphy. Please don't make the admin define this grey area. It will have consequences I won't like.

I would say that anything ooc is... ooc. No prompt, score, stat, messages from any of those (illusioning "You are an enemy of: Estarra", or something similar). All of those are ooc, and no other skill is allowed to act like that. I can't emote ooc things, can I?

You have emoted: Richter kills you with a headshot *BAM*

Anything else though, fair game. This includes affliction lines, etc. I think that if you can illusion something happening, you can illusion something happening to you. After all, if they couldn't use illusions to set off people's triggers, that'd lose a lot of the usefulness of them. Let's say you had no system, and saw that you were being poisoned. You'd flip out and drink antidote before you died. Same thing with triggers, except it's just automated.

I agree.

Things like scroe and stat are dodgy, but anything anyone can do to you, including death or any other things that you would trigger a system to act upon, including herb balances death etc are all fair game.

Especially programmed illusions to send half of serenwilde sporing back to their city when they try to get into a room

I think it's lame that you can't see your own illusions anymore.

Laxinova has the Lusternia login logo as an illusion...and someone has an illusion of evoking the sphere of 'nutsack' instead of 'netzach' ...
just be glad I do not have illusions that would be sacry!
Love-mimi

And both of those seem... extremely OOC.

I agree. If there was one quality one should have as far as illusions, it's professionalism. Even if the illusion is simple, it should still be the best

Yea...but the nutsack one made me spit tea all over myself when I first saw it XD
Love-mimi
Yes..professionalism is good

I think anything is fair game as long as it's not blatantly OOC. (For the record, I don't consider prompts, STAT, and SCORE blantantly OOC because they're game-related; I mean things like talking about the outside world.)

If you illusion an affliction line and you see it, it hits you just as much as it hits your enemy.

I remember issuing myself in achaea to ask about something like this the illusion was you have been slain and are thrown out of the arena, they said that its best to avoid system messages in illusions but it is allowable. So kinda cheap but not illegal.

Don't know about everything else, but for the "feeling yourself charred" bit, the IC reason for this could be that the illusion is so realistic that your mind causes you to almost feel the pain? Something like pretending you are not hungry. After a while, you won't be hungry, unless you really haven't eaten in a loooong time.

I used to do A pretty good hunger illusion, which I have passed on to a different illusionist

Aww... come on, they were cool.

I've always thought of dreamweaving illusions as giving waking dreams - you're forcing something into the mind of your victims. If that includes the sensation of dying, why not? Limiting illusions to visual theatrics only really makes it a bit silly - You see (blah) becomes so obviously recognizable as an illusion it isn't worth wasting time on.

I draw the line when it comes to the use of numbers to screw up systems.

For example:

I can say IC: I got hit with X affliction, and I felt Y way (prickly stinging sensation, etc, etc, etc). I cannot say: my health fell to X number so I reacted in Y way. Thus, I would consider prompts to definately be ooc.

I don't think illusioning prompts is OOC since there's an actual ability that does that.

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Wounds: Illusory wounds will make damage appear greater than it is.

Sorry, but if you trigger something based on your prompt and gets screwed over by it then it's your own fault. As well as being killed or thrown out of the arena. If your system is exploitable then fix it, don't complain about illusions screwing you over. When I was a Mage on Achaea I used a 10-line illusion that utterly destroyed most people. I felt it was really cheap so I reduced it to about 5 lines but I was still issued by another combatant. Needless to say the issue was dropped because it was so ridiculous.

Prompts are definitely OOC. Narsrim explained it. As for the affliction that illusions prompts, it doesn't work by 'illusioning prompts'. It works by making the victim think he is in better health than he really is.The game interface represents this by never letting the player know his health has dropped. Saying it 'illusions prompts' is like someone illusioning someone doing something and your character saying 'Hey, that's an illusion because it wasn't in my custom emote colour'. It's like saying the Aslaran in the moors are the same you killed five minutes ago because they share an object number. The game interface isn't IC.