Narsrim2006-04-23 18:32:39
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 22 2006, 03:19 PM) 281469
@mitbulls: really? You can't distinguish between a Muslim who is sitting there nicely and a Muslim who is blowing up a building? sometimes a person is doing something that harms your org, and sometimes they arn't, you don't need to be killing them when they arn't unless your out for some sort of revenge or vengence.
You can't help yourself, can you.
Daganev2006-04-23 18:35:06
Not sure what your implying Narsrim.
Do you have something against Current Events?
Do you have something against Current Events?
Verithrax2006-04-23 19:23:06
I have something against using RL as an example. It's downright silly.
Shayle2006-04-23 21:15:34
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Apr 23 2006, 03:23 PM) 281680
I have something against using RL as an example. It's downright silly.
Hmm...I don't know if it's THAT silly. What else is there to base things on?
Aiakon2006-04-23 21:20:18
The world of fantasy fiction, where suspension of disbelief permits twists to reality which real life analogues do not.
Shamarah2006-04-23 21:41:15
QUOTE(Woot_Aranya @ Apr 23 2006, 02:05 PM) 281659
except that it's not likely to happen anytime soon. not in any part because of the efforts of the admin. but because the players in some of the organizations (mostly serenwilde) are unwilling to change.
I think it's silly to blame that on any organization in particular, all of them do that.
Unknown2006-04-23 21:49:04
In real life we're taught to be nice, openminded, and accepting from day one. For the most part anyway.
In Lusternia, you are taught to hate, fear, and wish destruction upon all those who differ from day one. They are tainted/untainted, wyrded/unwyrded, and are thus inferior and must be purged. Ra-ra.
In Lusternia, you are taught to hate, fear, and wish destruction upon all those who differ from day one. They are tainted/untainted, wyrded/unwyrded, and are thus inferior and must be purged. Ra-ra.
Daganev2006-04-23 23:04:05
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Apr 23 2006, 02:49 PM) 281702
In real life we're taught to be nice, openminded, and accepting from day one. For the most part anyway.
In Lusternia, you are taught to hate, fear, and wish destruction upon all those who differ from day one. They are tainted/untainted, wyrded/unwyrded, and are thus inferior and must be purged. Ra-ra.
Maybe where you are born you are taught that, however not everyone in the world is taught that way. Infact, in the example, I gave, they are taught (atleast according to thier mass media) the same type of things charachters are taught in Lusternia.
Or if you must, look up a Darwinian Racist arguments about how anybody who doesn't have specific genes are bound to die out anways, so killing them off is better for humanity. Many of those sites, will make themselves sound more moderate so that they have a "better image," and instead of making blankent statements, will show isolated examples of say, an increase of life threatening diseases in Africa as some "point" to be made about the future of the human race.
Even Sauramon (sp?) (for those who can't stand reality) tried to convince Gandalf that the enslavement and creation of orcs to take over middle earth was what was in the best interest of everybody.
Only in Lusternia does the argument "I don't care what others think, this is whats best because I said so" ever hold water.
Trying to argue from a "moral highground" in Lusternia is a flat out joke. Nobody does it, nobody cares about it. Its why, I think, most arguments end up on the forums.
Daganev2006-04-23 23:19:14
Hmmm, something just happened in game which I think is a perfect example.
Anisu Aristata shouts, "Oh Celest, city of injustice, the loss of Dairuchi is
but a first! your walls will crumble, don't condenm the Holy Supernals to the
same destiny!"
Anisu Aristata shouts, "Ah Armand can not face the truth, one that speaks
against Celest must be one that is an enemy, I trust you'll love when I turn
those 30 statues of mine against you."
Lord General, Sir Armand Luminare, Commander of The Light shouts, "Oh I will."
No attempts to "disprove" anisu, or to bring her back into the fold, and pubicly demonstrate how Celest is strong and thier interpratation of the Light correct.
Just a simple "Enemy and bedone with it" because they know, nothing is really ever going to happen.
Now ofcourse I don't know what was being said inside of Celest, or if anyone Sent Anisu tells in an IC fashion, but I assume, knowing how people act in Lusternia that not much was done or said in responce save mechanical responces.
And the same kind of atmosphere makes people have questions of how they could take OOC considreations IC.
sorry if that doesn't make sense.
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Anisu Aristata shouts, "Oh Celest, city of injustice, the loss of Dairuchi is
but a first! your walls will crumble, don't condenm the Holy Supernals to the
same destiny!"
Anisu Aristata shouts, "Ah Armand can not face the truth, one that speaks
against Celest must be one that is an enemy, I trust you'll love when I turn
those 30 statues of mine against you."
Lord General, Sir Armand Luminare, Commander of The Light shouts, "Oh I will."
No attempts to "disprove" anisu, or to bring her back into the fold, and pubicly demonstrate how Celest is strong and thier interpratation of the Light correct.
Just a simple "Enemy and bedone with it" because they know, nothing is really ever going to happen.
Now ofcourse I don't know what was being said inside of Celest, or if anyone Sent Anisu tells in an IC fashion, but I assume, knowing how people act in Lusternia that not much was done or said in responce save mechanical responces.
And the same kind of atmosphere makes people have questions of how they could take OOC considreations IC.
sorry if that doesn't make sense.
