Karel2009-09-16 20:53:00
Neon bright. And Tervic, I try to keep the desc minimalistic, and define oddities about him (his occasional fidgeting with his lip ring is his main one right now) with emotes.
Unknown2009-09-16 20:59:31
How's this?
She is a ferocious undead loboshigaru and is covered in luxurious, long, pure white fur that shimmers in any available light. It is well-kept and looks soft. Staring out fiercely beneath wedge-shaped ears, sunken emerald green eyes flicker with coldness and malice. An old silver scar mars the right side of her long, slender muzzle, slashing vertically through her whiskers and leaving her lip curled slightly upward, revealing a sharp canine tooth. A black nose stands in contrast to her white fur, wrinkling constantly as she scents the air and her ears swivel constantly, listening to the sounds around her. Her body is lean and rangy, rather than muscular, suggesting quickness and agility but also leaving her rather wanting as curves go.
Got rid of the bosoms, even though it seems that would be a somewhat necessary part of a female description, since females do have visible breasts and they are noticeable, even if you're wearing baggy clothing. Whereas with a guy... well, packages aren't always visible except in very certain circumstances, and it doesn't seem like that would be appropriate at all to mention, unless you're trying to be creepy. As long as you're not being too, er, suggestive with it (I have seen some people with extremely over-described, huge, bouncy tracts of land - I mean, breasts - in their description) it seems like a brief mention of a chest should be alright.
Now, is it a good idea to throw in a height? If it is, I've noticed that some Lobos walk on all fours and others don't (I know the picture shows a crouching Lobo, and it seems that at least that would be necessary to hold hammers and whatnot, though an extremely uncomfortable way to walk.) Is there any canon on that? Raewyn is all Lobo and not mixed.
She is a ferocious undead loboshigaru and is covered in luxurious, long, pure white fur that shimmers in any available light. It is well-kept and looks soft. Staring out fiercely beneath wedge-shaped ears, sunken emerald green eyes flicker with coldness and malice. An old silver scar mars the right side of her long, slender muzzle, slashing vertically through her whiskers and leaving her lip curled slightly upward, revealing a sharp canine tooth. A black nose stands in contrast to her white fur, wrinkling constantly as she scents the air and her ears swivel constantly, listening to the sounds around her. Her body is lean and rangy, rather than muscular, suggesting quickness and agility but also leaving her rather wanting as curves go.
Got rid of the bosoms, even though it seems that would be a somewhat necessary part of a female description, since females do have visible breasts and they are noticeable, even if you're wearing baggy clothing. Whereas with a guy... well, packages aren't always visible except in very certain circumstances, and it doesn't seem like that would be appropriate at all to mention, unless you're trying to be creepy. As long as you're not being too, er, suggestive with it (I have seen some people with extremely over-described, huge, bouncy tracts of land - I mean, breasts - in their description) it seems like a brief mention of a chest should be alright.
Now, is it a good idea to throw in a height? If it is, I've noticed that some Lobos walk on all fours and others don't (I know the picture shows a crouching Lobo, and it seems that at least that would be necessary to hold hammers and whatnot, though an extremely uncomfortable way to walk.) Is there any canon on that? Raewyn is all Lobo and not mixed.
Unknown2009-09-16 21:30:44
QUOTE (Raewyn @ Sep 16 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How's this?
Better!
QUOTE (Raewyn @ Sep 16 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got rid of the bosoms, even though it seems that would be a somewhat necessary part of a female description, since females do have visible breasts and they are noticeable, even if you're wearing baggy clothing. Whereas with a guy... well, packages aren't always visible except in very certain circumstances, and it doesn't seem like that would be appropriate at all to mention, unless you're trying to be creepy. As long as you're not being too, er, suggestive with it (I have seen some people with extremely over-described, huge, bouncy tracts of land - I mean, breasts - in their description) it seems like a brief mention of a chest should be alright.
Breasts aren't at all necessary for a female description, and I have, in fact, seen very good descriptions for female characters that dismiss breasts completely. Personally, it's something I would rather avoid in a desc, since I would rather focus on the face and basic form of the body. I think the general RP community appreciates it more, too.
QUOTE (Raewyn @ Sep 16 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, is it a good idea to throw in a height? If it is, I've noticed that some Lobos walk on all fours and others don't (I know the picture shows a crouching Lobo, and it seems that at least that would be necessary to hold hammers and whatnot, though an extremely uncomfortable way to walk.) Is there any canon on that? Raewyn is all Lobo and not mixed.
Tons of people throw in height. I think we try to avoid exact measurements (5'10" for instance) and give approximates instead. As for canon on standing straight vs. all fours, I have no idea. I think both are acceptable.
Unknown2009-09-16 21:33:33
QUOTE (Raewyn @ Sep 16 2009, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've noticed that some Lobos walk on all fours
Unless you're talking about NPCs, the people who describe Loboshigarus as walking on all fours are incredibly wrong. Loboshigaru are completely bipedal. They have hands, not paws, and thus would be very awkward walking on all fours.
Aerotan2009-09-16 21:38:16
Apes walk on all fours, Vibeke.
Unknown2009-09-16 21:50:59
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Unless you're talking about NPCs, the people who describe Loboshigarus as walking on all fours are incredibly wrong. Loboshigaru are completely bipedal. They have hands, not paws, and thus would be very awkward walking on all fours.
Hm, yeah, just reread the help file and it does say that Lobos are humanoid, so I would assume that means having an upright stance and human-like proportions which would definitely make walking on all fours awkward. I haven't seen any NPCs like that, just players.
Unknown2009-09-16 21:55:06
QUOTE (Aerotan @ Sep 16 2009, 05:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apes walk on all fours, Vibeke.
Yes, but imagine a Loboshigaru walking like an ape. It'd be comical.
Casilu2009-09-16 21:58:49
Not if you have this music.
Aerotan2009-09-16 22:01:31
Just saying, the presence or absense of paws does not preclude quadrupedal movement. In fact, since they're also clearly depicted as digitigrade, loping might very well be the preferred method of moving quickly. Running on all fours, like a wolf or cheetah.
Also, Cas, that music can, and has been proven to be able to make ANYTHING epic. Expecially when coupled with liberal use of Slo-mo.
Also, Cas, that music can, and has been proven to be able to make ANYTHING epic. Expecially when coupled with liberal use of Slo-mo.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:07:18
QUOTE (Aerotan @ Sep 16 2009, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just saying, the presence or absense of paws does not preclude quadrupedal movement. In fact, since they're also clearly depicted as digitigrade, loping might very well be the preferred method of moving quickly. Running on all fours, like a wolf or cheetah.
Also, Cas, that music can, and has been proven to be able to make ANYTHING epic. Expecially when coupled with liberal use of Slo-mo.
Also, Cas, that music can, and has been proven to be able to make ANYTHING epic. Expecially when coupled with liberal use of Slo-mo.
A loboshigaru could not physically run on all fours like a wolf of cheetah. They could maybe manage a lumbering gait like a bear, but the shape of the hips of bipedal and humanoid creatures simply does not support both. Quadrupeds can stand on two legs for a limited amount of time, however, but never enough to constantly be bipedal.
There is no animal in the world that is both quadruped and biped.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:07:23
The idea is that a lobo would drop to all fours in a full run. If you want a lobo who is going to be on all fours then give him a bent look in the hips when he walks around on his two back legs, like a dog on his back legs. Then when he wants to get running and move at high speeds he could drop down and run on all fours. Though you should also think of your skills. Obviously a lobo could run with blades strapped to his back but you can't expect him to hold them and run on all fours.
Also, Vibeke, a half-breed trill could grow hair but if he is then RP would dictate that he can't claim to be full blooded and it is in every right of the full blooded trills to look down on him and say he isn't a trill or a true trill. It is similar to how a half-breed Dracnari could lose the ability to breathe fire or a half-breed Merian could possibly lose the ability to breathe underwater. They are still a Merian but RP would generally dictate that a full blooded Merian or Dracnari would deny their existence as a Merian or Dracnari.
The help scrolls don't say the traits can't happen. The help scrolls say that those with those traits are not -true- members of their race. IC events and history have shown that all three races are pretty racist.
Also, Vibeke, a half-breed trill could grow hair but if he is then RP would dictate that he can't claim to be full blooded and it is in every right of the full blooded trills to look down on him and say he isn't a trill or a true trill. It is similar to how a half-breed Dracnari could lose the ability to breathe fire or a half-breed Merian could possibly lose the ability to breathe underwater. They are still a Merian but RP would generally dictate that a full blooded Merian or Dracnari would deny their existence as a Merian or Dracnari.
The help scrolls don't say the traits can't happen. The help scrolls say that those with those traits are not -true- members of their race. IC events and history have shown that all three races are pretty racist.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:11:15
QUOTE (Othero @ Sep 16 2009, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
a half-breed trill could grow hair
Dracnari could lose the ability to breathe fire
a half-breed Merian could possibly lose the ability to breathe underwater.
Dracnari could lose the ability to breathe fire
a half-breed Merian could possibly lose the ability to breathe underwater.
This is completely, utterly, and totally incorrect. The help files dictate that they are not dracnari or merian if they cannot breathe fire or breathe underwater. This is non-negotiable. It is on an out of character level. There is no point in attempting to interpret them as anything else. It is stated clearly and truthfully.
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either you are a dracnari or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe fire.
either you are merian or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe water.
No trill grows hair on their head, rather they have a cap of downy feathers.
either you are merian or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe water.
No trill grows hair on their head, rather they have a cap of downy feathers.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:16:49
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Like the merians, dracnari do not recognize half-breeds: either you are a dracnari or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe fire.
Despite interbreeding with humans, merians do not recognize half-breeds: either you are merian or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe water.
No trill grows hair on their head, rather they have a cap of downy feathers.
Despite interbreeding with humans, merians do not recognize half-breeds: either you are merian or are not, denoted by the ability to breathe water.
No trill grows hair on their head, rather they have a cap of downy feathers.
Which is cultural. The race does not recognize someone without these traits as one of their own. It doesn't mean they are or are not a part of the race. It means that they are not full blooded and the full blooded members of the race as a culture refuse to recognize them.
Ardmore2009-09-16 22:17:48
QUOTE (Vibeke @ Sep 16 2009, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is completely, utterly, and totally incorrect. The help files dictate that they are not dracnari or merian if they cannot breathe fire or breathe underwater. This is non-negotiable. It is on an out of character level. There is no point in attempting to interpret them as anything else. It is stated clearly and truthfully.
I think it's more of a 'full-blooded merians/dracnari's would look down upon half-breeds', not that they can't exist.
Aerotan2009-09-16 22:23:02
No, actually.
At the very least, the dracnari help files state that one is not CONSIDERED a dracnari unless one can breathe fire. In all technicality, by the help file no dracnari has scales of any color than green, but I've seen two green-scaled dracnari. Ever. And I was one of them.
Half breeds exist. Denying that is foolish at best, given that the Human help files explicitly state that half breeds exist. A half-blooded Trill could very well have hair from his human heritage. If he has functioning wings, hollow bones, and the rest, for mechanical reasons, he is no less a halfblooded Trill for having hair. In fact, he has non-functioning wings, bones too dense to fly, and a full set of feathers on his head, but learns quickly from his experiences, and adapts to his surroundings, he is no less human for it.
At the very least, the dracnari help files state that one is not CONSIDERED a dracnari unless one can breathe fire. In all technicality, by the help file no dracnari has scales of any color than green, but I've seen two green-scaled dracnari. Ever. And I was one of them.
Half breeds exist. Denying that is foolish at best, given that the Human help files explicitly state that half breeds exist. A half-blooded Trill could very well have hair from his human heritage. If he has functioning wings, hollow bones, and the rest, for mechanical reasons, he is no less a halfblooded Trill for having hair. In fact, he has non-functioning wings, bones too dense to fly, and a full set of feathers on his head, but learns quickly from his experiences, and adapts to his surroundings, he is no less human for it.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:30:38
So Vibeke, you're trying to say if someone chooses to be a race other than human, they can't be half breed? That's kind of what I understand you to be saying... it seems that with interbreeding there are varying degrees of what traits they could inherit and come out, but that having or not having a certain trait wouldn't make them partially that race. Especially because the "trills don't have hair" thing in the help file is not an ability, like fire breathing or water breathing is for merians and dracnari. When you come into the world as a trill, you aren't FORCED to not have hair. And, if you are half breed human and are merian as your race, for example, you still HAVE to breathe water. If you're a half breed human and trill is your race, it's not quite the same. Just because the help file says all trill don't have hair, doesn't mean a half-breed couldn't have hair and still be mostly trill otherwise. It's basic genetics. It would be the same with the merians and dracnari if water-breathing and fire-breathing weren't an ability.
The difference is ABILITIES and TRAITS. The game FORCES you to have certain abilities, but it never FORCES you to have certain traits of looks, especially if you're mixed. If we're talking pure genetics here though, it's certainly quite likely to have a 3/4 breed trill and human mix (with trill as the predominate race) that doesn't have feathers for hair. If the game didn't force you to have firebreathing as a dracnari, you could also say that a 3/4 breed dracnari 1/4 human might not have the ability to firebreathe, but the game doesn't give you that option. Genetically, that would be a possiblity though.
And race mixtures is possible... we KNOW that humans interbreed with the other races, so trying to say that in order to be a half-breed or anything other than pure-bred you have to choose human as your race is pish-posh. It is allowable to be able to be any amount of any other race you want, because that's how the game is... you can't pretend that whenever there is interbreeding between humans and another race, they should come out human and only the members of the other races are "pure", because that makes no sense. So trills that are mostly trill but have some human can come out with hair instead of feathers because they're not claiming to be pure trill.
The difference is ABILITIES and TRAITS. The game FORCES you to have certain abilities, but it never FORCES you to have certain traits of looks, especially if you're mixed. If we're talking pure genetics here though, it's certainly quite likely to have a 3/4 breed trill and human mix (with trill as the predominate race) that doesn't have feathers for hair. If the game didn't force you to have firebreathing as a dracnari, you could also say that a 3/4 breed dracnari 1/4 human might not have the ability to firebreathe, but the game doesn't give you that option. Genetically, that would be a possiblity though.
And race mixtures is possible... we KNOW that humans interbreed with the other races, so trying to say that in order to be a half-breed or anything other than pure-bred you have to choose human as your race is pish-posh. It is allowable to be able to be any amount of any other race you want, because that's how the game is... you can't pretend that whenever there is interbreeding between humans and another race, they should come out human and only the members of the other races are "pure", because that makes no sense. So trills that are mostly trill but have some human can come out with hair instead of feathers because they're not claiming to be pure trill.
Unknown2009-09-16 22:33:13
Since dracnari can't breathe fire til level 50, does that mean they aren't dracnari before level 50?
Unknown2009-09-16 22:39:49
You know what? I give up trying to tell you idiots things that should already be bleeding, blindingly obvious. You can pretend that it's not true if you want. Considering that the game does not force you to have the traits of a certain race, I am now off to go make a merian that cannot breathe water that is actually a dracnari physically and mentally that cannot breathe fire, who can also shapeshift into a trill with hair due to being part changeling. Who cares, it's a half breed! I don't have to conform to the limits of roleplay that have been set by the administration! Lolololol.
This is why I stopped playing Lusternia in the first place.
This is why I stopped playing Lusternia in the first place.
Mihewi2009-09-16 22:40:48
Hm. I haven't bothered re-writing Mihewi's description since the reincarnation from mugwump to human. All I have is the first line from the original description... since it's the only thing that wasn't race-specific.
He is an ordinary human and walks with an obvious limp, his stance awkward and crooked when he is standing still, for his left leg is noticeably shorter than his right.
Replace the "he" with "she" for when I'm not genderbending and there you go. What I probably need to do is ask around to determine what people picture in their heads when they think of her or something... since I've been having a lot of trouble imagining what the heck a human Mihewi would look like.
Edit: Also. Just for the record, I really hate the "ordinary human" part. I know some races have an even more frustrating racial descriptor. What happens when you get a human who doesn't look "ordinary" (which is almost as bad as "beautiful" or "ugly" in a description, honestly... it's very subjective) or a viscanti who doesn't look like a fiend? Or a furrikin who isn't all bouncy? Hm? Hm?
He is an ordinary human and walks with an obvious limp, his stance awkward and crooked when he is standing still, for his left leg is noticeably shorter than his right.
Replace the "he" with "she" for when I'm not genderbending and there you go. What I probably need to do is ask around to determine what people picture in their heads when they think of her or something... since I've been having a lot of trouble imagining what the heck a human Mihewi would look like.
Edit: Also. Just for the record, I really hate the "ordinary human" part. I know some races have an even more frustrating racial descriptor. What happens when you get a human who doesn't look "ordinary" (which is almost as bad as "beautiful" or "ugly" in a description, honestly... it's very subjective) or a viscanti who doesn't look like a fiend? Or a furrikin who isn't all bouncy? Hm? Hm?
Unknown2009-09-16 22:44:53
QUOTE (Mihewi @ Sep 16 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm. I haven't bothered re-writing Mihewi's description since the reincarnation from mugwump to human. All I have is the first line from the original description... since it's the only thing that wasn't race-specific.
He is an ordinary human and walks with an obvious limp, his stance awkward and crooked when he is standing still, for his left leg is noticeably shorter than his right.
Replace the "he" with "she" for when I'm not genderbending and there you go. What I probably need to do is ask around to determine what people picture in their heads when they think of her or something... since I've been having a lot of trouble imagining what the heck a human Mihewi would look like.
He is an ordinary human and walks with an obvious limp, his stance awkward and crooked when he is standing still, for his left leg is noticeably shorter than his right.
Replace the "he" with "she" for when I'm not genderbending and there you go. What I probably need to do is ask around to determine what people picture in their heads when they think of her or something... since I've been having a lot of trouble imagining what the heck a human Mihewi would look like.
What did she look like as a mugwump?