Umm, I already know how to fight, laysus. try again.

From the numbers I am seeing, I have to agree that Mindblast is overpowered by the manner in which the damage is ramped up.

I actually have a simple solution: Why don't you all try to find metods to adapt and counter these new changes instead of complain about them? EVERYTIME a new envoy change comes out, people whine. Just give it a chance. i'm SURE there's some way to counter a little mindblast. Jeez... instead of looking for the easy way out, THINK a little. Isn't that what IRE combat is about?

Is it mindblast that is the area attack, or is that another one?

Revan, the attack is too powerful if the numbers I am seeing are correct. It makes it trivial to defeat a person using it once your ego is above a certain level. Now if it is all about winning for you, then by all means continue to try to defend an ability that is blatantly out of whack. If you are a person who likes to actually have a challenge when he plays a game, then I suggest you sit down and actually think on how you would react if another class was doing that sort of all prompt stats damage to you.



No, mindblast is not an area attack. The person has to be in the same room with the Telepath to be hit by it.

From those numbers this attack really seems to be overpowered.

Revan, if you want to defend this skill, try to post why you think its ok to have such skill.

Geb, how long has it been since you played? I just sparred Icarus, who does about 1400 damage to me PER SWING! Do you think that's balanced? Well let me tell you something: if you can't eat a damn sparkleberry, sip whatever and god damned get out of the room if you feel you're in danger, that's you're own stupidity. Retreat is always a viable strategy. people do tons of damage. Look at moondancers, look at warriors. In my opinion, the skill mindblast is fine. So what you have to think a little to overcome it? Damn man... you see something that looks nasty and you immediately cringe to the "omg, it's OP" mindset. I can think of several ways to prevent a mindburst.

I want to add that i'm aware that a demesne DOES make it absurd. I don't use a demesne, for such a reason (unless it's against guardians/wiccans... no mercy for them!). I feel that a demesne is what makes the skill seem overpowered. You need to look at the skill as it is used by itself, and not with demesne. Besides, if you fight a mage with ANY secondary skill in a demesne that has good combat exprience, expect to die. it's not just telepathy. it's demesnes in general. I doubt you'd have much trouble fighting a telepath if he was JUST using telepathy.

I've played recent enough to know the difference between what is overpowered and what is not. Though I am not going to sit here and try to convince you, because it is very evident that you are not looking at this situation objectively.

BTW, I know what stops telepathic attacks. Sleep, Stun, Death, and leaving the room if it is not a range attack. Remember, I've had every skill-set possible for a mage.

I have 5412h, 3471m, 3471e and I am a Taurian Tracker. Here is how much Revan's mindblast hit me for in mid-combat (so I was fully-deffed, not that trackers get any defensive defs ):


5025h, 2246m, 2777e, 0p, 23464en, 10331w ek<>-
A sudden headache makes you rub your temples for relief.
5025h, 2246m, 2777e, 0p, 23464en, 10331w ekp<>-
A blinding pain explodes behind your eyes, which begin to tear up with blood.
3810h, 1447m, 2018e, 0p, 23464en, 10331w ekp<>-


In fact, 1215 health // 799 mana // 759 ego exactly everytime it hits. I think it's bad, but manageable since he was not using a demesne.

I am being very objective, geb. It is you and these others who are being rather bias because they see something that is a *gasp* challenge to them, and god forbid they can't use their brains and think of a way to handle it. Give it a few weeks, and i assure you it won't be the same problem it is now

Ignoring if its over powered or not but I agree that it shouldn't be based upon max ego, it should only be based on charisma. No other skill improves with gaining levels, it just shouldn't be like that

2008h, 4059m, 3552e, 10p eslrxk<>-
Icarus's aura of weapons rebounding disappears.
Sweeping a waraxe of fiery storm through the air overhead, Icarus sends it whooshing straight towards your right leg. Your right kneecap is struck, slicing through the bone and causing the leg to collapse.
A prickly stinging overcomes your body, fading away into numbness.
PARALYSED-YOU-AINT-GOING-NOWHERE-PRINCESS
470h, 4059m, 3552e, 10p eslrxkp<>-

Every hit. touche to you

Revan is a Mugwump, so he is not hitting the true potential of the attack. Go have a faeling telepath attack you or ask Athana.

Icarus' attacks can be stopped far easier than yours. Let's not forget Assault/Sweep have been recently downgraded as well so you could simply whore Pentagram and he'd have little chance to even touch you.

Well, 1538 < 2773 last I checked.

So... let's just ask/hope mages don't use mindblast with a demesne? Come on...

I've fought Icarus plenty of times. I know what damage he does. You are not showing me anything I did not already know. You have not proved anything concerning Mindblast not being overpowered though.

There's not really a point... because while I can whore pentagram, i can't attack him back. if I attack for my measely 1200 health out of 5k attack, he can whack me for his 1400+ damage out of 3k. Telepathy DOES drop pentagram... so you can't argue about shield whoring, since it is in his favor as well s mine.


And you have proved nothing about it being overpowered either, except that you cannot think of a way to counter it. Try giving it some time and use that brain. I know you're combat savvy, so sit back and relax. You're all being judgemental because wow, a mage is doing well. Gasp. Don't be surprised, be intelligent and objective. And for gods sake, don't bring demesnes into this... we all know they suck.

I've told you how to counter it. Evidently you did not read what I stated. I know exactly what can counter psionic skills, since I've had them all and actually tested them.

I could easily return and become a telepath and force you to show me how you counter it...

Demesnes are all part of it though, since it is an option mages have. If you can't see that things must be balanced based on what is available to the class in question, then everyone is wasting their time speaking to you about this issue.

Then go for it. It's really not as overpowered as you think geb. if people are too damn lazy to discover a way to fight back against something, that is really their own fault, not the fault of the skill. Now the numbers you have are mine, as a mugwump with 14 cha, and Athana, a titan with whatever. I do 1200, Athana does around 1700. Granted that a titan with 4k+ more ego than me is doing a mere 500 more damage (and yes, I have compared the damage), I don't see the big deal. it looks as if the ego doesn't effect it THAT much. Do you expect a titan to do 500 damage and you to be able to cure it instantly and be happy? Or would you expect something that the admninistration gives bonuses to, OBVOUS bonuses to, alot more damage? Compare my 1200 mindburst to, say... a 1500 staffcast. mindburst... 1200, 700, 700 every 6 seconds. Sparkleberry, sip... no problem. 1500 damage staff every 3-4 seconds, not so nice. if you are not smart enough to strategize against a mindblast, then you're out of luck. guess what? people die to damage, they die to aeon/sleep whoring... they can die to a god damned mindblast. live with it. it is not the god-level omnipowerful skill you think it to be.

Edit: As an addition, I would like to point out that you're complaning about a 50% ego kill along with mindblast. Hey... ever hear of absolve? That's what you call a 50% mana kill which is FAR easier to pull off.

Revan, you sound pitiful. I will leave it at that.