Unknown2006-05-07 14:16:03
Has anyone ever played a Bard in Imperian? If so, you'll know that they have FEIGN, a skill which basically allows them to do room emotes on the spot. They use them for acting and plays and stuff.
It works quite similarly to... I can't remember what in Illusions, I think, but we could put it into a different skillset (Arts, maybe?) adn call it ACT. Then we could do plays!
*ducks behind riot shields, as usual*
It works quite similarly to... I can't remember what in Illusions, I think, but we could put it into a different skillset (Arts, maybe?) adn call it ACT. Then we could do plays!
*ducks behind riot shields, as usual*
Verithrax2006-05-07 15:22:29
Er, there's another purpose for that besides fun and games and plays and snooglies and YAY. That's why it's in Illusions, not Arts. Because it's devastating in combat against some people.
Unknown2006-05-07 17:26:27
I meant not complex ones like the Illusion, just one liner room emotes
Verithrax2006-05-07 17:27:30
Those are still devastating against some people.
Unknown2006-05-07 18:44:40
How is that FEIGN different from a custom emote?
Soll2006-05-07 18:46:50
It sounds like you can make it without the pre-requisite of having your name at the beginning.
Verithrax2006-05-07 19:14:11
Feign is an illusion.
Unknown2006-05-07 20:25:24
Here's an example of using FEIGN:
That's a performance by a bard in Imperian. You combine FEIGN to whatever you're doing, e.i reading a poem or telling a story.
QUOTE
You say, "During the Second Age of Awakening, the prominent feature in the sky
was the great moon of Aetherius. For many generations it had swam through the
skies, seers predicted all would not stay as it was."
Laus blinks.
You sing, "Nulous."
feign For a moment, as the room darkens, a large moon can be seen floating along the firmament.
You act out the performance.
Laus claps his hands together merrily.
You say, "As the seers predicted, nothing stayed as it was. Sometime within the
month of Letum, the exact date is lost to history, the great moon of Aetherius,
violently split into three separate moons. The forces at work brought great
destruction to the world, massive earthquakes spread across the land, and
extensive flooding drowned out many of the populace, while the erratic weather
ensured doom for the survivors."
feign With a wave of his arm, Tynanor brings before your eyes, a picture into the past, the giant moon wavering in the twilight.
You act out the performance.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Oooh."
feign Just as the moment couldn't become more peaceful, a violent explosion rips apart the moon, separating the moon into three smaller moons.
You act out the performance.
"Gah!" Laus shouts, jumping in surprise.
Anathesia's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.
feign With another wave of his arm, the view fades to a pleasant countryside lined with farms.
You act out the performance.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Aaah."
feign People can be seen leaving their homes in puzzlement before the ground itself begins to shake violently, causing the farms to collapse in on themselves.
You act out the performance.
Graac, Student of the Arcane leans forward intently.
"Wow!" Laus exclaims!
You are now holding a small oaken drum in your left hand.
Taking a small oaken drum in your hands, you begin to pound out a rhythmic
beat.
You are now holding a set of polished panpipes in your right hand.
You begin to play a mischievous melody on a set of polished panpipes.
You place a small drum on the ground and crouch down beside it. Pounding the
drum, you play a low sonorous melody on your panpipes, calling upon the very
bowels of the earth to shake and tremble.
The perfect craftsmanship of your a small oaken drum enhances the sounds
emanating from it.
Your hands fumble and slip on a small oaken drum.
The perfect craftsmanship of a set of polished panpipes enhances the sounds
emanating from it.
Your hands fumble and slip on a set of polished panpipes.
A reverberating pounding in the depths causes the ground to ripple and shake
violently.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Ooooh."
The quaking of the ground subsides as the reverberating pounding in the depths
fades.
feign Spreading his arms wide, Tynanor brings to view a peaceful valley of onlookers, who are gazing up into the heavens, trying to understand what is happening.
You act out the performance.
Laus's mouth turns up as his face breaks into a smile.
feign A loud rumble can be heard across the firmament as lightning streaks across the skies, almost looking like a giant spider-web across the sky.
You act out the performance.
Laus blinks.
feign As the rumbling grows louder, shouts can be heard as a giant pool of water pours into the valley, flooding it completely.
You act out the performance.
"Eep!" Laus screams in fright.
Graac, Student of the Arcane stares intently at the sky.
Laus gurgles through his gills in aggravation.
You say, "These were not times for the weak unfortunately, many perished in the
beginning. As the Divine sought to strengthen our fortitude in many ways, some
of which were in the form of new abilities, others in the form of new races."
Laus nods his head.
Graac, Student of the Arcane nods in understanding.
feign Tynanor utters quiet words before the images of a group of men and women slowly begin to transform before your eyes.
You act out the performance.
Laus blinks.
feign Thick carapaces forming along their skin, some even growing large, deadly tails.
You act out the performance.
feign Others keep their basic form, only their ears growing to a point, while their bodies become frailer.
You act out the performance.
Laus claps his hands together merrily.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "No Lamirai?"
You say, "Some say that these changes were already happening, that the races
were becoming used to their environments, others believe however, that one of
the moons.. Moredeim is the sole cause for these mutations."
feign A quiet melody invades the room as Tynanor continues to speak, the three moons appearing above your heads as he speaks.
You act out the performance.
You say, "The moons that were created..Moredeim, Aryana and Sukhder have all
had great influences on our world, each moon seemingly giving out a certain
aura different than the other: Moredeim, one of change, Aryana, one of life,
and Sukhder one of immense terror. While many view the separation of the moons
as the catalyst for the troubled times to follow, one can't help but wonder
what life would be like now, with only one moon."
feign The moons slowly join into one giant moon, which hangs in the air for a few moments before disappearing into the darkness
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Not as exciting."
You act out the performance.
Laus nods sagely.
With a flourish of your arm, you bow deeply.
Laus congratulates you with some wild clapping.
Anathesia applauds you wholeheartedly.
You narrow an eye in concentration and hum a few notes.
At your command, light floods your vision as the shadows are banished to hidden
recesses.
Laus whirls about you like a mad whirly thing.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Good good very good!"
Graac claps his hands together merrily
was the great moon of Aetherius. For many generations it had swam through the
skies, seers predicted all would not stay as it was."
Laus blinks.
You sing, "Nulous."
feign For a moment, as the room darkens, a large moon can be seen floating along the firmament.
You act out the performance.
Laus claps his hands together merrily.
You say, "As the seers predicted, nothing stayed as it was. Sometime within the
month of Letum, the exact date is lost to history, the great moon of Aetherius,
violently split into three separate moons. The forces at work brought great
destruction to the world, massive earthquakes spread across the land, and
extensive flooding drowned out many of the populace, while the erratic weather
ensured doom for the survivors."
feign With a wave of his arm, Tynanor brings before your eyes, a picture into the past, the giant moon wavering in the twilight.
You act out the performance.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Oooh."
feign Just as the moment couldn't become more peaceful, a violent explosion rips apart the moon, separating the moon into three smaller moons.
You act out the performance.
"Gah!" Laus shouts, jumping in surprise.
Anathesia's mouth turns up as her face breaks into a smile.
feign With another wave of his arm, the view fades to a pleasant countryside lined with farms.
You act out the performance.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Aaah."
feign People can be seen leaving their homes in puzzlement before the ground itself begins to shake violently, causing the farms to collapse in on themselves.
You act out the performance.
Graac, Student of the Arcane leans forward intently.
"Wow!" Laus exclaims!
You are now holding a small oaken drum in your left hand.
Taking a small oaken drum in your hands, you begin to pound out a rhythmic
beat.
You are now holding a set of polished panpipes in your right hand.
You begin to play a mischievous melody on a set of polished panpipes.
You place a small drum on the ground and crouch down beside it. Pounding the
drum, you play a low sonorous melody on your panpipes, calling upon the very
bowels of the earth to shake and tremble.
The perfect craftsmanship of your a small oaken drum enhances the sounds
emanating from it.
Your hands fumble and slip on a small oaken drum.
The perfect craftsmanship of a set of polished panpipes enhances the sounds
emanating from it.
Your hands fumble and slip on a set of polished panpipes.
A reverberating pounding in the depths causes the ground to ripple and shake
violently.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Ooooh."
The quaking of the ground subsides as the reverberating pounding in the depths
fades.
feign Spreading his arms wide, Tynanor brings to view a peaceful valley of onlookers, who are gazing up into the heavens, trying to understand what is happening.
You act out the performance.
Laus's mouth turns up as his face breaks into a smile.
feign A loud rumble can be heard across the firmament as lightning streaks across the skies, almost looking like a giant spider-web across the sky.
You act out the performance.
Laus blinks.
feign As the rumbling grows louder, shouts can be heard as a giant pool of water pours into the valley, flooding it completely.
You act out the performance.
"Eep!" Laus screams in fright.
Graac, Student of the Arcane stares intently at the sky.
Laus gurgles through his gills in aggravation.
You say, "These were not times for the weak unfortunately, many perished in the
beginning. As the Divine sought to strengthen our fortitude in many ways, some
of which were in the form of new abilities, others in the form of new races."
Laus nods his head.
Graac, Student of the Arcane nods in understanding.
feign Tynanor utters quiet words before the images of a group of men and women slowly begin to transform before your eyes.
You act out the performance.
Laus blinks.
feign Thick carapaces forming along their skin, some even growing large, deadly tails.
You act out the performance.
feign Others keep their basic form, only their ears growing to a point, while their bodies become frailer.
You act out the performance.
Laus claps his hands together merrily.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "No Lamirai?"
You say, "Some say that these changes were already happening, that the races
were becoming used to their environments, others believe however, that one of
the moons.. Moredeim is the sole cause for these mutations."
feign A quiet melody invades the room as Tynanor continues to speak, the three moons appearing above your heads as he speaks.
You act out the performance.
You say, "The moons that were created..Moredeim, Aryana and Sukhder have all
had great influences on our world, each moon seemingly giving out a certain
aura different than the other: Moredeim, one of change, Aryana, one of life,
and Sukhder one of immense terror. While many view the separation of the moons
as the catalyst for the troubled times to follow, one can't help but wonder
what life would be like now, with only one moon."
feign The moons slowly join into one giant moon, which hangs in the air for a few moments before disappearing into the darkness
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Not as exciting."
You act out the performance.
Laus nods sagely.
With a flourish of your arm, you bow deeply.
Laus congratulates you with some wild clapping.
Anathesia applauds you wholeheartedly.
You narrow an eye in concentration and hum a few notes.
At your command, light floods your vision as the shadows are banished to hidden
recesses.
Laus whirls about you like a mad whirly thing.
Disci Prae Laus Eledhwen, of the First Circle says, "Good good very good!"
Graac claps his hands together merrily
That's a performance by a bard in Imperian. You combine FEIGN to whatever you're doing, e.i reading a poem or telling a story.
Soll2006-05-07 20:28:20
That would be really nice, but it would be abused by many as something for combat instead of enhancing roleplay.
Unknown2006-05-07 20:35:49
'scue me for being a bit stupid but how so? I guess the reason I ask is because I think its kind of...unoffical that feign just isn't used for combat on Imperian, or at least to my knowledge, I've never seen or heard anyone doing that.
Unknown2006-05-07 20:36:53
QUOTE(Soll @ May 7 2006, 10:28 PM) 286001
That would be really nice, but it would be abused by many as something for combat instead of enhancing roleplay.
How do they deal with that in Imperian?
Unknown2006-05-07 20:40:49
It might have an insane recovery. Just make it flat out unplausible for combat.
Soll2006-05-07 20:43:06
People in Imperian are clearly trustworthy enough to not use it in combat, and/or the Bards are very quick to deal with those who do abuse it.
- Giving it an insane recovery would make in unplausible(implausible?) for good, continuous, intense roleplaying.
- Giving it an insane recovery would make in unplausible(implausible?) for good, continuous, intense roleplaying.
Unknown2006-05-07 20:47:01
Hmm..I think no one really thinks about using Feign for an attack, because Bards have other skills that are possibly better than using feign? Dunno
Unknown2006-05-07 20:47:13
The problem Sarvasti is that people use complex triggers for combat, to handle cures and defenses and the like. The complex combat in a text-mud pretty much requires having things like triggers, especially in a huge battle. It is easy for players to use illusions, emotes, and the like to create "false positives" that automatically invoke a trigger, making it abusable by allowing its use in combat.
It sucks to have these limits, but as proven by Karma, Avenger, and other rules, people will always try to push the limits of the game.
I still try to suggest stuff--we just need to figure out how to make this stuff work within the game. For instance, I want a Sing emote, that works like illusions, and maybe they can pull it off if it uses a different color or has a quote or special character before each line...
It sucks to have these limits, but as proven by Karma, Avenger, and other rules, people will always try to push the limits of the game.
I still try to suggest stuff--we just need to figure out how to make this stuff work within the game. For instance, I want a Sing emote, that works like illusions, and maybe they can pull it off if it uses a different color or has a quote or special character before each line...
Unknown2006-05-07 20:50:14
Hmm, well Imperian sabs have the ability of Illusions and they use it for combat reasons. Hrm, thanks Phred for explaining.
Unknown2006-05-07 21:14:20
Well, what IS it like in Imperian? Do they use it in combat, or do they just collectively decide against it for the sake of keeping their sweet roleplay ability, or is it actually protected from abuse by some mechanism or player-imposed control?
Obviously having something like this would be very, very cool, but prone to abuse in the ways outlined...
Obviously having something like this would be very, very cool, but prone to abuse in the ways outlined...
Unknown2006-05-07 21:24:27
I call bull to anyone who says that the players are simply "trustworthy" enough to not use it for PvP. It either is used for PvP, or its implausible.
And how would a 5-10 second time recovery in any way effect RP? That would make it useless for combat, but it could eeeasily be used in performances.
Though, really, someone whose creative can do all of that with normal custom emotes, so, all of you people saying how awesome it would be, just need to be more creative with what you have
And how would a 5-10 second time recovery in any way effect RP? That would make it useless for combat, but it could eeeasily be used in performances.
Though, really, someone whose creative can do all of that with normal custom emotes, so, all of you people saying how awesome it would be, just need to be more creative with what you have
Unknown2006-05-07 21:28:43
how about players don't see the feign unless they ally you, then enemies wouldn't see it and it would be of no use in battle.
Unknown2006-05-07 21:30:21
QUOTE(Archer2 @ May 7 2006, 02:28 PM) 286020
how about players don't see the feign unless they ally you, then enemies wouldn't see it and it would be of no use in battle.
Except for the fact that there are abilities that force people to ally you.
