Just something else to realize... I don't think this is at all, a set in stone rule.

For example, When Glomdoring did not have an arena, we said because we don't have an arena we don't have a good way to train. NOw that we have an arena, it is not used 24/7 and we don't have the most amazing training program ever.. however, the amount of times I have sparred, or sparred members of the ebonguard has increased dramatically since we got the arena. Mostly because I didn't have to walk very far.

So to sum up..

Having arena == More training. However, Not having arena did not equal 0 training.

And Having the Arena, did not equal Good training. It just increases the likelyhood of having people train.

And for those of you who don't understand...

I am not talking about Arenas here,(so no comments on Glomdorings training or arena ussage) I am talking about an example.



odd.

I know I would raid, Xenthos would propbabbly raid, Pentu -has- raided, Xavius,.. Weylin would love to, Adracunin would raid if he was forced to... And besides, if only Diamante Icarus and Ferlas raided that would increase the number of raiders by 300%.

For a commune that is described to be wrathfull, it sure isn't that agrressive.

Sparring someone doesn't equal raiding. Tell me, who do you think would raid if they had the chance? Which Glomdoringer do you assess to be aggressive enough to do that?

Pentu went into Serenwilde or EtherSeren and fought there? I doubt that, somehow. And no one raids if he is forced to...honestly, you would force people to raid?

Funny you should say that.. Shikari told me I had to raid, and I did. We even killed all the guards. Didn't even give me a favour for the raiding either.

Okay, fine. You got conglutinate, go raid EtherSeren! Grab some others who have it too and go kill all the guards!

Conglutinate >>> every rezzskill.


why don't you use it?

Same reason nobody else raids etherSeren.

Now villages.. and claiming contorl over the kroakni, thats something I might be interested in doing.

Diamante just earlier said on Bellator that it's easy to raid EtherSeren. Xenthos presented a tactic about raiding it too.

Go and talk to them and then raid! You got the skills.

I'll even tell you two other ways too.

Get a dreamweaver to walk around EtherSeren and find a place without guards and an unbonded totem (which is possible now that they can probe) and let them coalesce, then teleport yourself.

or

Get a Blacktalon or Shadowdancer to use the Narsrimtrick and look for a nice place where the rest of the thugs can teleport in.




But see, Daganev. Having the skills to do so != actual raiding.

Those are two great suggestions for someone who is not a warrior... *peer*

But again, whats the point of raiding EtherSeren? there is no benefit for that.

Here's a thought. What is the single biggest perceived factor of any organization's 'expansion'?

Villages.

How many villages has Glomdoring won at the moment? Zero. Hence they are not in any way perceived to have an interest in 'taking over the Basin'.

Now, let's assume you get a resurrection skill. What benefit will that provide to your village influencing? Absolutely none.

Ressurection skills have -nothing- to do with your RP as wanting to expand your influence. To use that as an argument is very, very flawed.


Edit: Maybe it has some very small effect on how violent or aggressive your citizens are perceived. I'll allow that. But that is far from anything contradicting Glomdoring's desired 'RP', and is not at all what you seem to be arguing.

How can Glomdoring gain villages if we don't raid villages when its not influence season?

Owning a village is only one aspect of being agressive.

By not being in the government style that depends on raiding?

Perhaps by reading? I know the help scrolls aren't written in Daganevian, but seriously...

Unfortunately, religious seems to not be balanced. We can influence our little hearts out and not see a change, while a quick raid and slaughter of the village will make them love you very quickly should you be conquest. Not to mention the auto increase due to the more villages you hold.

Which, really, makes being religious entirely a RP stance. *shrugs*

Wouldn't it be better to address that imbalance then?

Resurrection skills certainly won't.

Don't worry. It's on my list. I'm sure you'll see it again very soon.

I agree and Ive said it before glomdoring and geomancers need access to some exp prevention to balance out exp loss.

I fully agree - I had that complaint when Seren was religions and I still played. I was told by a Divine though that it was working as intended, and that the Divine thought it was effecting things as much as it should. I still disagree.

And I would say two near non combatants who dont often need reses will be able to tell me much less about how useful a resurgem is than two people who are often fighting and who are often in resurgem covens.

Again I cant see how tsuki or wesmin has more experiance with resurgems than diamante or icarus, if you'd like to explain how they do please do?

We have two fighters who have used resurgem for ages saying how useful it is compared to two people who arnt fighters saying how it is hard to do and often useless at all despite them also saying it prevents them from losing a lot of exp quite a few times.

No I wouldnt ask a baker how to change spark plugs but I would ask two of the top fighters in the basin their opinion on a res skill because they are the ones it will effect the most. If you want a comparision tsuki and wesmin are people with a 10ft small back yard garden compared to icarus and diamante who are land scape designers and flower arrangers for the queen. Id ask their opinion about gardens and flowers and id take their opinion about it over wesmin or tsuki.






Tried it cant be done.



Wont try it because its bug abuse and I wont lower myself to narisms level.



As far as I can see its been.

Glomdoring players-we want a res skill
some people-ok yea you should get one
some players-resurgem isnt very good
other people- Yes it is

Bobby works backstage at the theatre, in charge of ordering/making/supplying makeup and costumes. Carla is the leading actress who benefits and uses the makeup and costumes when she goes onstage. Which one of the two knows best how many bolts of cloth were ordered and used to make her dress, and about the missing supply order of buttons?

Why not listen to everyone who has some insight into it - whether they are the ones who occasionally get to benefit from resurgem, or the ones who actually organize and participate in resurgem covens?

I really detest the elitism in your belief that only certain people have worthwhile opinions because they are top-tier fighters, while everyone else should just agree with whatever they say. In my experience, combat skill doesn't always equate to objective, rational, and fair suggestions and opinions. (Not that Diamante and Icarus aren't those things, I just mean generally).

To explain how Tsuki and Wesmin -may- (or may not, I don't know) have more experience with Resurgem, spend a moment in reflection. A non-moonie has experience with resurgem whenever they individually die. A moonie has experience whenever they are online and someone from their organization dies. Which of these will involve the greater number of occurrences?

See you have it backwards.. Diamante and Icarus are the ones with backyard and Tsuki and Wesmin are the ones with the landscaping ability.

Just because they get their garden pruned doesn't mean they know more about pruning.

Maybe you need a better analogy. I don't claim to know more about surgery than my doctor just because I have had surgery multiple times.

Like I said though, if you want to listen to the patient because they agree with you, instead of listening to the doctor because they don't, that's your choice. It is a stupid choice, but hey it doesn't affect me either way.