Indeed, and thus mindblast should NOT cost power. thank you

Let's see some tests from non-Athana mages? Maybe throw in a few demesne effects to see how that would work together?

I kept up fine with Revan in a spar a while back with his blasts... it was the other afflictions that kept me down enough for him to get the kill in... so I agree it isnt terrible and can be kept up with for a bit... unlike those damn vessel poppers that can rock you in close to 30-50 seconds. So don't suggest a power cost.. It isn't a terribly strong skill... you have to remember that you are seeing some of the best telepaths that know thier system and know how to use mindblast effectively. Not everyone is going to be able to pull it off like Athana or Revan can. That would have been like crying nerf BC's based solely on Murphy.

Which was known to happen...

Anyway, I'd also be interested to see some results from other spars. I might go out looking for some, now that this has come up, and see what I can find.

Sorry, but I sincerely doubt this statement. Some of the best Telepaths around? Even Athana herself have attested her fighting ability is mediocre and her only advantage comes from her Titan status coupled with artifacts and various buffs. Knowing how to execute a single alias to Mindburst someone to death does not equate skills or full knowledge of one's abilities.

Its only worrying when comming from athana, I can tank revan constantly mind blasting me with afflictions without any hindering




Mindburst is fine comming from a non titan mage if you tweak your sipping a bit, I do think it may need to be balanced out when titans and such are involved though.

We've gone over it... It's OP because Athana has insane amounts of ego and it's based off ego, so if you just made it off the ego stat instead of your actual ego then it would be more balanced (as a higher level doesn't grant you more damage) That way the mid range woudn't suffer, but the OP stuff like Athana does will get brought down to a reasonable level.

Wrong. it WAS based off of the ego stat before. And guess what? it was completely and utterly useless. Get your facts straight.

Wow Revan, do you just want an easy way to kill without skill? They upgraded it (shorter time for the channel) and made it based of your total ego. Make it based off charisma and it will be balance with a demesne and two other afflictions from the other two channels. Revan, don't be so insanely biased defending a clearly OP skill that you don't want removed because it will make you able to kill stuff without skill.

You're a warrior, right? Don't even begin to speak of "skill" when it concerns mages, kid. I aready told you that it was based off of Charisma before, and it was 100% useless. But, being that you're a biased warrior with no clue as to how mage combat works... I'll defer to your strikingly accurate and unbiased reason and wisdom... since you're obviously more intelligent than me in the matter.

I'm a mage and it should be based off charisma, kthxbai.

I'm a mage, and burst vessel should cost 2p per burst. kthxbai

lol nubcaek

Revan, stop with the condescending remarks. You're acting like a child that doesn't want his candy taken away.

I'm not condescending, Narses. I'm simply putting people in their place. And for your information, it's damn good candy.

"putting people in their place"? give me a break... this is a forum, no one owes anyone else squat- they are entitled to their opinions. There's another skillset which reminds me of this... Druidry. Druids rely -heavily- on sap, so they have this "uber-useful" skill... but they depend on it. Geomancers on the other hand... they were powerful enough as it is- I don't think a mage should be better than a warrior or a guardian at mobile warefare

If you actually read the thread you'd see Mindblast is only "overpowered" with a demesne in tow (not counting Titans) and therefore Mages are not any better at mobile warfare.

I'm quite aware that people are entitled to their opinions. I was merely jesting, Narses. I'll try to hold back on my sarcasm and wit in the future.

We're not better at mobile warfare. Do you see us carrying around demesnes? The fact is that mages need to be balanced for out of demesne combat. Maybe a little under.. but still balanced. You rarely see a mage using a demesne aside from group combat anyway, and in group combat, everything's overpowered.

I am willing to accept that I may have taken your note too seriously back there.

As for the warefare... look, the whole idea of mages, in my humble opinion, is making use of demesnes... that's their "thing". And catching a mage unprepared should make things -really- hard for a mage. Psionics shouldn't be a better utility than Geomancy/Druidry/Aquamancy.

I didn't say mindburst should be -removed-, but surely, it should do slightly less damage.

just my two pennies... and we don't even use pennies here! so I hope you appriciate the gesture.