Okay so I mis...wrote that, what I mean is you can't prove he didnt think it, seeing as I said "technically" thought people would catch on. Sorry for no one being able to understand me. And sorry for the stupid post :>

I don't have to prove if his character thought it. He chose to discuss it on an OOC clan before acting, instead of discussing it on an IC clan before acting. This makes the thought OOC, the act OOC.

It really doesn't matter to me what his "character" thought. The player himself treated it as OOC and when encouraged OOC, acted on it all.

Valid points, all. But the simple fact is, Mederrach's character (IC) thought the thought, and said it ICly. He hates Terentia's guts (ICly), based on 2 things: 1. The opinions of other Magnagorans and 2. The 30-minute long roleplay session he had with Kayde (in-game), several months (IC) ago, about Terentia's actions that led to her broken heart and sorrow. Ask her or me about it, if you want the long details, but the character even swore he'd be willing to challenge Terentia to a duel to ease her sorrow. So, stop assuming Mederrach, out of the blue, hates Terentia. No. Second, he is young, brash, and would dare scorn Her, risking oblivion, based on his emotional compulsions.

Now, stop trying to make these OOC-IC connections. Just because it was discussed in an OOC channel does not make the shout OOC. Just as, should I have discussed roleplay OOCly before executing it, the roleplay would not immediately be branded OOC.

Discussed OOCly beforehand != OOCly when implemented ICly. Non sequitur.

P.S.
Terentia, should you have been OOCly hurt or emotionally damaged by Mederrach's IC comment, I apologize to you as a player and volunteer for IRE. Don't take these things so harshly, albeit, I doubt you did (I think Viravain did, though!).

We can't keep the gods most people like and we drive away the remaining few that are with us. Good job guys.

I'll accept that Mederrach, but how do you justify your character's willingness to insult a being so powerful it could wipe him from existance. Now we know OOC that will not happen, but IC we know only that the Divine can and have done feats such as these, as well as many others beyond mortal understanding.

What I'm saying is, you can roleplay disliking a Divine but when you start to attract Their wrath you need to consider the consequences as your character would. To say simply "well, the Fates chose not to cut the cord this time" is not sufficient as your character knows, or should know, that the Divine can and do act outside of the Fates.

No, but reading that log, the shout was quite clearly OOC motivated, and I think that's what is upsetting people. Not that it was out-of-character for Mederrach to shout it.

The plain and simple truth of the matter is, players treat the Divine in an OOC fashion. It has become common place and even encouraged to shout whatever you wish to a divine then titter and say "heehee look at me, I yelled at a god and they can't do anything about it."

I wonder how many of you would be a little more respectful if say... the Divine deleted you when you disrespected them.

Read my post over again. As I said, it's part of Mederrach's personality- he's brash, bold, daring- it's how he is. It's part of his youthful spirit. He was even roleplaying being willing to challenge Terentia to a duel (But thank god Kayde didn't actually accept, as I would have been forced to make Mederrach accept, based on his personality). He'd be willing to do these sort of things before thinking about the consequences. It's how I've roleplayed him ever since- He would charge into Celestia even without conglutinate- he'd always accept a call for battle, no matter the odds or circumstances. I've wasted like... 20 RL hours rebashing lost exp (before getting conglutinate) due to this line of roleplay, but alas, that's how I want to play him.

I personally justify murphys skirting of divine punishment (and i skate on VERY thin ice most of the time) comes from the ass whooping i've given hajamin before. Both times he attacked me i parried and gave him a mangled leg through divinefire (bug or not it happened IC) and i also bashbrained him at the megalith twice in a row....That amongst other things give Murphy a well defined god complex, however he himself wont say he's divine to another elder god, he'll skirt the issue by decreesing his combat skills are divine.

Ah... but then that becomes a dangerous line.
How many people here would continue to play if any oposition was crushed finally and so completely.

... Game over pretty quickly.

OOC motivated? A lot of things ARE OOC motivated. Roleplay is OOCly motivated by your personal wishes and desires as a real-life person. I often discuss certain lines of roleplay I wish to pursue in-game OOCly beforehand, say, on AIM, getting input on what would be best to do. Nothing wrong with OOC discussions, so long as when you implement it ICly, it fits your character, and there's no blatant OOC reference involved.

Just because we're Magnagoran doesn't mean we don't ACTUALLY think of these things beforehand.

How are these shouts funny? There's nothing IC behind them, its about OOC rubbishing of another player, without any wit or subtlety.

Bellator seems to bring the poison of the forums in game, at least the insults here aren't paraded IC.

Then you will have no problem if Terentia shrubs you for a few in-game years? (IC, of course.)

Honestly, if this was an IC shout, I certainly do not find it funny, and will support a harsh punishment against you. If players continually egg on gods without any sense or discretion, and if they believe they can get away with it carte blanche, I'm going to have to rethink how restrained our gods are.

Gods are volunteers who like doing behind the scene duties (including RP) to help make the game more enjoyable for players. If players take their IR persona as a "joke", then what do you think their reaction should be?

I enjoyed that ur'dead trooper.. quite entertaining. It was really nice when it was just limited to that.

As far as OOC stuff IC goes.. that happened to me recently. Someone made up a fake emote on Bellator that related to Forren and soon I found myself with a letter of it, in game, in character..

Ah... so that was 'disscussion of certain lines of roleplay that you wished to pursue in-game' that we saw in the log...


Sorry, didn't realise.

Besides from Mederrach, Revan, and Murphy does anyone even find any of these shouts funny? Seems nothing more than people trying to gain attention by pissing off the gods. If that was your intention, congrats, you have accomplished!

The idea that your character is brash (Med) or has a god-complex (Murph) is fine, but unless your character is also, to be blunt, an idiot, they should also know that the Divine could wipe them away with a thought.

MED: I guess it is your choise to play a character who accepts that he can be swept from the tapestry and still chooses to go up against those odds, but it doesn't make a great deal of rational sense. We all have that survival instinct and, to be reasonable, your characters should probably have one too in my opinion.

Murph: Hajamin may have been parried by you Murphy, but He could have used other means besides a physical battle to attack you. He could have, I dunno, swept Murphy into the Void or something.

EDIT: To be clear, i don't want to turn this into a "lets bash eachother's rp" affair, I'm just using you two as an example of a problem that we've all probably touched on to some degree.

I'm very disappointed at the people in Bellator and surprised you had the nerve to actually post it here...

...actually I was quite amused by it.

most the time bellator is great, just every once in a while someone goes awry and it gets quoted here.

And Estarra go to sleep! Need your energy to examine something I'm soon to beg you to look at for the love of god