Has someone recently counted the previous three nodes? not including the one that just happend , I would like to have a rough count , the current one generated nearly 23k power. I am asuming how ever it wasn't that much before, it's just my guess. I feel like a nerd asking this but hey, im curious if the power will generate even more each time it's blown up.

Hmm. The last one I know of, the one Celest had completely at Hallifax, generated ~10,000-11,000 power, to my knowledge. Celest got about 9.7k from Starlinking, and I remember we had a number of people who had normal links, so I guess closer to 10k than 11k.

I'm going to go out of my way, and guess that the amount needed to raise a Vernal is 10 million power, thus we can assume they had a fair bit more than that. (I feel it would be stupid for a city/commune to spend all it's power on a Vernal) So I feel we have a fair bit of draining left to do.

I am going to make another guess:
The amount needed to raise a Vernal is "As much as the city wich has more has when Estarra decides that it's time to add Vernals to the game, give or take a few thousand power".

Which I pray every day is never. Demigods are strong enough!

In terms of combat vernal gods will be weaker then demigods, because they are on a very short leach on what they are allowed to do with their powers. (eg. if they get zap they can't zap you constantly for smelling bad)

As I understand it they will be similar to elder gods, mainly rp function.

Murphy should be a vernal god.

You may call me Murphlachmar

I really dont actually ever see vernal gods comming into play like that, there is no way anyone wants god like powers going to what is effectivly a mortal. I know this isnt a great example but just think yrael as vernal :hum:

hehe Actually now I think about it, I want to see it.

Iridiel, I base my assumption off of past posts that have stated none of the current Nexuses were close enough. This implies there is a figure in mind. I would class it as a strong guess, considering that some Nexuses have only just reached 1mil, and that by the time they hit 10mil the game will have stabilised and the coding force will be behind the game to properly initiate Vernals. I very much doubt Estarra said in her 100-page report, "We will instate Vernals when we feel like it." It is more likely she already has a number in mind for the power required.

It's also been said that Vernals are not going to be free-running, and that they will be largely controlled and limited in what they are allowed to do, though I imagine what they can do will be an entirely different story. Basically, they will have a huge amount of power that mortals could only dream for, but there use of it will be rationed.

No, it was not said that.

It was said that *might* be the case, but they had not decided and it was not fact.

anything is likely, I was just curious. No matter what the truth is I will still make nodes,and now I'll be counting how much power each one generates.

My apologies. I stand corrected.

She probably said "when we have this number of players online on average, and we have released this and this and that". From what I remember, it wasn't planned (acording to her posts) that players would save power in their nexus instead of using it as much as they did

From a programmer point of view, the amount of power in the nexus is the less important variable in a multiplayer game, as that's one you have full control over, unlike the number of players online, the number of cities released, the number of coders you have, etc... If she thinks 5m is a good moment to release Vernals, I do hope she does instead of waiting for 10m

Vernal Gods will be closer to Elder Gods than mortals - they will likely stay aloof of mortal affairs and primarily concern themselves with the soulless and other large-scale situations.

As for the nodes, Lacostian or someone said that that's not how the city's will be returned. It's pretty much pointless to drain them in hopes of returning the cities.

Doesn't having a power cost not stay in tact with the histories? If you look at the first Vernal (I forget his name), he was raise RIGHT AFTER the nexus was COMPLETED - that is, if the pool of stars exists, it can already raise a vernal, theoretically.

Now, the trick is you need to find out how to do so .

Actually, that wasn't a Nexus that raised the first Vernal. Nexii are weak imitations of the Edifices of Power.

Edit: meant Edifices

Possible. However, it's also possible that the early mortals had far more powerful technology or knowledge of magic, and were able to simply draw down a massive amount of power from the upper planes in one go (though no one knew about the other planes yet, except a Vernal or two). Could be that they nearly drained the upper planes dry, which would account for the edifices 'drying up' later in the war, and the current lack of such massive quantities of power.

I always thought that the Vernal Gods would be OOC players who make it to Administrators, so instead of, let's say, Murphy creates a new God or posses Shikari for a bit, he will be raised to Vernal

And the name of "Murphy" sucks for a God. Though Murphlachmar sounds better

Maybe Murpheous