Lusternian Heraldry

by Verithrax

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Verithrax2006-06-14 19:19:25
QUOTE(Richter @ Jun 14 2006, 03:00 PM) 298196

I don't really get the language, but I've never dealt with this kind of thing before. I think mine would have to be something like... I dunno, a snake on one side, and a fist on the other, representing Richter's craftyness and Murphy's Murphy-ness.

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Per bend Purpure and Sable, in base a fist Argent, in chief a wyvern rampant Or, armed Argent.

Here's how you parse this. 'Per bend' is the division of the field; it means a diagonal division from upper left to bottom right. The common divisions are per pale (Vertically) per fess (Horizontally) per chevron (In a chevron, an inverted V shape) per bend, per bend sinister (A bend, just right-to-left instead of left-to-right), per cross ('checkered' with two colours) and per saltire (X-shaped division). Sable and purpure are tinctures, respectively black and purple. The others common ones are vert (green), gules (red) and azure (blue). Besides those, you have the metals, which are Or (Gold, or yellow) and Argent (Silver, or white). The rule of tincture dictates that, for the sake of contrast, you can only have metallic charges on tincture backgrounds and vice-versa. 'In chief' means at the top of the field, 'in base' means at the bottom. 'Rampant' is one of several possible positions for animals are charges; it means the animal is to be drawn with his fore limbs up in attack position. There are others, like passant (Walking) dormant (sleeping) and so on.

There is more to it, but not much; that paragraph is enough to parse all the ones I posted here, I think, and even generate a few of your own. The wikipedia article is much more complete.
Richter2006-06-14 19:27:42
Woo, that's kind of neat.
Verithrax2006-06-14 19:50:53
Alternate version with a proper serpent (But not a serpent proper):
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Arix2006-06-14 19:56:26
*poke*
Unknown2006-06-14 20:09:44
Impressive.
Unknown2006-06-14 20:12:37
Serpent proper, by the by, would be a snake in it's natural colours. I can speak Blazon too! Tree proper, for example, would do one with green leaves and a brown trunk. *audible gasp*

I think using Proper is the only way to get brown on something, but Verithrax knows more about this than I do.
Hazar2006-06-14 20:16:39
Sable, an argent bear rampant

Voila! The Ebonguard.
Verithrax2006-06-14 20:34:17
That would be bear argent rampant, but yes! If someone has the skills for it (I'm not an actual designer) maybe design Sable, an ebonglom wyrdling Argent?

This is Arix:
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Argent semé of roses proper, an unicorn rampant proper.
Just kidding. It also kind of violates the rule of tincture.

Arix's is a modified Carthan one; the crescent is the traditional cadency mark for a second-born son.
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Per bend Purpure and Sable, on a bend Or, three crescents Gules; in chief, a wyvern rampant Or, armed Argent. In base, a fist Argent.
Arix2006-06-14 20:43:55
good. now how do I make it my Avatar?
Tekora2006-06-14 22:40:23
Hrm... wonder if I did this right.

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Per Bend Azure and Vert, a tressure Or, an Eagle Displayed Argent, Armed Or, an Increscent Or

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Verithrax2006-06-15 00:57:38
That's Per bend Azure and Vert, a tressure Or, an eagle displayed Argent, armed of the third, a rose Argent, barbed ppr.

It's fine, except you have the green leaves on green field, but that's not a real violation of the rule of tincture. And for full unambiguity, you'd want Per bend Azure and Vert, a tressure Or, in chief an eagle displayed Argent, armed of the third, in base a rose Argent, barbed proper.

QUOTE(Arix @ Jun 14 2006, 05:43 PM) 298258

good. now how do I make it my Avatar?

Get the original picture, shrink it to a manageable avatar size, host it somewhere and put it as your avatar. Duh.
Verithrax2006-06-15 20:43:02
More coats, this time for orgs.

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Per bend Sable and Vert, in chief an increscent Argent, in base a stag's head cabossed of the last.
Obviously Serenwilde.

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Per bend Argent and Sable, in chief a crow close of the second.
Glomdoring, mirroring Serenwilde somewhat.

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Argent, on a fess embattled Gules between four castles Sable, six skulls proper.
Magnagora I

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Gules, five serpents Argent, two, two, and one, on a chief Sable, three castles of the second.
Magnagora II. Notice how the charges mirror the Great and Minor Houses.

Please view them in full - ImageShack severely damages images when it shrinks them for making thumbnails.
Richter2006-06-15 20:47:00
So, what are the rules for children, when they have a thingy?

And the fist looks a bit phallic. *snicker* Poor Murphy.
Verithrax2006-06-15 21:09:08
Only one person can have a coat at a time, so the head of a family wears the family coat - the 'plain coat'. Children have differentiation marks on their coats; there are specific ones for each son, but they're not really binding or anything. Daughters wear the family coat, with or without differentiation, on a lozenge. Women wear their coats of arms in lozenges instead of shields, and they don't strictly have to have unique shields. Alternatively, anyone can just go ahead and get a wholly different coat; this is done particularly if you're not going to inherit the plain coat when the current holder dies (IE, you're not the firstborn son).

That's more or less how it works with the British and Scottish, but it would be different in Lusternia (For starters, two males can simultaneously be the heads of a family). Coats of arms don't belong to a family; they belong to an individual, but are inherited when that person dies, and usually, the coats of other people in the family make a reference to the family arms.
Unknown2006-06-15 21:40:25
Meaning it wouldn't work so well in Lusty, and labels would have about 50 notches on them in a few years. Maybe the family would just relinquish the head of their arms if they go inactive.
Verithrax2006-06-15 21:51:29
I doubt that... How many families with more than three active generations do you know?

EDIT: Even so, I'm not keen on cadency systems.
Tzekelkan2006-06-15 22:01:09
Oh, Oh, Oh, make the Silverwing one, pweeeeeeeatty pwease! wub.gif

It should be something with a silver feather and the star of Celest.

(And no references to treason or its husband!)
Verithrax2006-06-15 23:08:43
Two versions, pick one:
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Barry wavy of six argent and azure, in chief two wings conjoined Or, in base an estoile of the last.

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Per bend wavy Sable and Azure, in chief an estoile Or, in base two wings conjoined Argent.
Verithrax2006-06-15 23:09:34
This is Sheia:
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Sable, a serpent Argent between two daggers of the last.

What? You said nothing about her personal arms...
Tzekelkan2006-06-15 23:24:35
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Jun 16 2006, 01:09 AM) 298602

Two versions, pick one:
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Barry wavy of six argent and azure, in chief two wings conjoined Or, in base an estoile of the last.

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Per bend wavy Sable and Azure, in chief an estoile Or, in base two wings conjoined Argent.



Ooooooh, the second one is perfect! Thank you!!! dribble.gif