Acrune2006-09-10 23:45:56
QUOTE(Avaer @ Sep 10 2006, 07:40 PM) 329899
Well, if I remember correctly, when Celest was in our position and Magnagora were walking over them there was no surrender there either. It's just not something that is built into our organizations... we can't just give up because its oocly convenient, at least not without significant compromises (or a divine plot that involves imploding hart, heh).
Celests #1 priority is defeating the taint, and they're obviously not going to give up on that. Serenwilde's #1 priority is probably protecting themselves and their interests, which leads to different reactions to getting stomped, I would think.
Unknown2006-09-10 23:47:05
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 10 2006, 11:43 PM) 329901
Well, Celest is inherently defined by conflict with Magnagora. Surrender really isn't possible in that instance.
Serenwilde, on the other hand, doesn't have to be fighting with Celest and ending it would be fine.
Perhaps. Or perhaps we are also defined by our resistance to Celest. A good portion of our background (and I won't start arguing semantics, don't worry) does go to great lengths to set up a significant conflict between Celest and Serenwilde.
Narsrim2006-09-10 23:47:50
Serenwilde doesn't have to surrender. There is no submission other than Serenwilde will not maintain it endorses its membership killing angelkin is ok.
Unknown2006-09-10 23:49:18
Suspension is over. Harharhar.
Great, and the forum's glitched up so I can only use fast reply. Can't even change my sig or do anything else that involves a text box.
Great, and the forum's glitched up so I can only use fast reply. Can't even change my sig or do anything else that involves a text box.
Unknown2006-09-10 23:50:22
QUOTE(Acrune @ Sep 10 2006, 11:45 PM) 329902
Celests #1 priority is defeating the taint, and they're obviously not going to give up on that. Serenwilde's #1 priority is probably protecting themselves and their interests, which leads to different reactions to getting stomped, I would think.
I disagree with that, I think our #1 priority is healing the basin and trying to restore what we can to how they were before. We're like that annoying old person that always says how better things were 'in our day' (gogo granny-power!).
Diamondais2006-09-10 23:50:24
Its annoying to be raided almost every day, to not be able to do something because it always seems like the cities have the upper hand with Hailstorm/beckon. It is annoying to see our Aspects die, our Avatars. To have to beseech to Magnagora every time they go down or raid Water everytime because without our Avatars we cant bring in the Fae that make the Fae creatures that drop power.
We survive, we make up for it. Everyones becoming stronger in their own ways with Serenwildes beliefs/fights/trades. We have new trade pathways open up, we're not as OMG TAINT DIE PLZ!!1!
We do have our frustrations yes, but its allowed Serenwilde to grow and move in other directions just as its allowed for people to realize that Lusternia isnt all about Light vs Dark. Good vs Evil. There are no distinct Good organizations just as there arent any distinctive Evil organizations. Each one emulates both.
We survive, we make up for it. Everyones becoming stronger in their own ways with Serenwildes beliefs/fights/trades. We have new trade pathways open up, we're not as OMG TAINT DIE PLZ!!1!
We do have our frustrations yes, but its allowed Serenwilde to grow and move in other directions just as its allowed for people to realize that Lusternia isnt all about Light vs Dark. Good vs Evil. There are no distinct Good organizations just as there arent any distinctive Evil organizations. Each one emulates both.
Acrune2006-09-10 23:53:18
QUOTE(Avaer @ Sep 10 2006, 07:50 PM) 329907
I disagree with that, I think our #1 priority is healing the basin and trying to restore what we can to how they were before. We're like that annoying old person that always says how better things were 'in our day' (gogo granny-power!).
Before what?
Narsrim2006-09-10 23:53:30
QUOTE(diamondais @ Sep 10 2006, 07:50 PM) 329908
Its annoying to be raided almost every day, to not be able to do something because it always seems like the cities have the upper hand with Hailstorm/beckon. It is annoying to see our Aspects die, our Avatars. To have to beseech to Magnagora every time they go down or raid Water everytime because without our Avatars we cant bring in the Fae that make the Fae creatures that drop power.
We survive, we make up for it. Everyones becoming stronger in their own ways with Serenwildes beliefs/fights/trades. We have new trade pathways open up, we're not as OMG TAINT DIE PLZ!!1!
We do have our frustrations yes, but its allowed Serenwilde to grow and move in other directions just as its allowed for people to realize that Lusternia isnt all about Light vs Dark. Good vs Evil. There are no distinct Good organizations just as there arent any distinctive Evil organizations. Each one emulates both.
I'm -so- glad someone finally had the balls to admit it!
Acrune2006-09-10 23:54:50
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 10 2006, 07:53 PM) 329910
I'm -so- glad someone finally had the balls to admit it!
Yesterday I was telling the Mags that the Serens were stealing their essence, and they were kind enough to tell me that the two orgs were sharing the essence
Diamondais2006-09-10 23:55:21
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 10 2006, 07:53 PM) 329910
I'm -so- glad someone finally had the balls to admit it!
I could make a very feminist comment..but I would have to kill myself afterwards.
Unknown2006-09-10 23:55:45
QUOTE(Acrune @ Sep 10 2006, 11:53 PM) 329909
Before what?
Before the cities came along and ruined our hegemony. And before the taint/wyrd started ruining our lovely landscapes.
Acrune2006-09-10 23:56:59
QUOTE(Avaer @ Sep 10 2006, 07:55 PM) 329913
Before the cities came along and ruined our hegemony. And before the taint/wyrd started ruining our lovely landscapes.
That was a pretty long time ago
Unknown2006-09-10 23:58:55
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Sep 10 2006, 11:53 PM) 329910
I'm -so- glad someone finally had the balls to admit it!
It isn't all that secret, is it? It does show we aren't quite at the alliance stage as some people think though, if Serenwilders have to ask before gathering essence for their safety.
QUOTE(Acrune @ Sep 10 2006, 11:56 PM) 329914
That was a pretty long time ago
Hence the granny comment!
Edit: But quite seriously, would anyone from Celest have preferred that Serenwilde actually had accepted the demands initially, and enacted a law protecting Celestia? Speaking oocly here - I know it makes sense and would be nice from an IC Celest viewpoint.
You can't tell me you aren't enjoying being the big bully for a change.
Tervic2006-09-11 00:01:47
BLAH!
I hate people who launch into personal attacks when you tell them they are wrong, even in a very gentle and nice way. I also hate people who don't know the difference between OOC laws and IC laws. They should be stabbed. In the face. With a hammer. By an angry baby.
Speaking of which, ild, can I consign you to slay some evils for me? Y'know, you being "Angry Baby Man" and all
On a brighter note, lightly pan-fried thin slices of lotus root make me the happy.
I hate people who launch into personal attacks when you tell them they are wrong, even in a very gentle and nice way. I also hate people who don't know the difference between OOC laws and IC laws. They should be stabbed. In the face. With a hammer. By an angry baby.
Speaking of which, ild, can I consign you to slay some evils for me? Y'know, you being "Angry Baby Man" and all
On a brighter note, lightly pan-fried thin slices of lotus root make me the happy.
Ista2006-09-11 00:20:30
To be honest, I'm VERY sick of the raiding. Almost every time I get in (9 out of 10) there is raiding going on. So, I have to hear to Etherwilde, get deffed up, sit there for half an hour, waiting for something to happen, and then to die. At least once, usually twice. Then I'm last rited, and I pray.
Sadly, Ista is happy to die for Serenwilde. I hate it though, and the only way I can get through it is to pretend I'm Reg Shoe from Night Watch. 'Truth, Justice, Freedom, Resonably priced love, and a hard boiled egg!'
Yeah, I need help.
Sadly, Ista is happy to die for Serenwilde. I hate it though, and the only way I can get through it is to pretend I'm Reg Shoe from Night Watch. 'Truth, Justice, Freedom, Resonably priced love, and a hard boiled egg!'
Yeah, I need help.
Vix2006-09-11 00:23:15
Last rite triggers make me sad. Not only does it spam the place with the beckon traps killing people in one room so there's about 50 gravestones, it also makes my non-congluting alt very sad.
Unknown2006-09-11 00:28:10
you know what, I don't like to say this, but I'm starting to hate Narsrim OOCly. Wish he was more of a sportsman regardings jumping, killing and pretty much everything he does. He's really a griefer and I am really glad I'm out of Celest. Narsrim, just promise you won't go Paladin on us and ruin the only kickass guild in Celest.
Whatever happened to Murphy's better-than-thou-you-suck-I-rule-toughen-up-princess's sportmanship?
Whatever happened to Murphy's better-than-thou-you-suck-I-rule-toughen-up-princess's sportmanship?
Unknown2006-09-11 00:30:25
I finding out that I dislike several people OOC because of the way the sound in their posts. Which is strange for me, but ...hmmm.
--:\\ me and spelling do not mix. I swear.
--:\\ me and spelling do not mix. I swear.
Unknown2006-09-11 00:33:59
IC point of View
Celest will be screwed one way or another, they started this mess and they think they can cleanse it, assuming they can cleanse what a Soulless spurted out and warped a lot of Estarra's creations.
Celest will fall, the rocks hurled by our geos will crumble their walls, their souls cursed and tormented by our Nihilists and their Warriors will fall to ours and with Serenwilde, they will get their revenge to Celest for what they've done long ago and never be forgotten.
OOC point of View
We need to tweak Lusty a bit if we're going to have a 'real' war, you know: Making catapults, walking trees, dozens or hundreds of NPC troops and if any of them lose the war, they'll not be able to be log in for a month
Celest will be screwed one way or another, they started this mess and they think they can cleanse it, assuming they can cleanse what a Soulless spurted out and warped a lot of Estarra's creations.
Celest will fall, the rocks hurled by our geos will crumble their walls, their souls cursed and tormented by our Nihilists and their Warriors will fall to ours and with Serenwilde, they will get their revenge to Celest for what they've done long ago and never be forgotten.
OOC point of View
We need to tweak Lusty a bit if we're going to have a 'real' war, you know: Making catapults, walking trees, dozens or hundreds of NPC troops and if any of them lose the war, they'll not be able to be log in for a month
Unknown2006-09-11 00:36:19
And that made me remember... didn't the Star of Celest fall? Did Celest begged for mercy? No, they attacked back. Soon, we will attack again and take down that star...