Ildaudid2006-10-30 22:25:54
Yuck, minivans are the bane of the world!! But yeah just look at the ones with my crappy painted arrows.. and the big circled radiator... there are 1mil hoses under that hood, some vacuum, some fuel, some coolant.. so do get overwhelmed. Anyways good luck!! and PM me if you find a problem or have a question.
Anarias2006-10-30 22:27:51
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Oct 30 2006, 03:18 PM) 348492
Oh noes! a celestian sympathizer . If a group of Serens attack and punk Narsrim or any Celestian for that matter, they will say the war is back on. You can live in your own little bubble if you choose. If Ixion was still in Serenwilde and he killed a Celestian... on his own, I can guess you would be one of the first screaming for him to be removed or apologize. And you can bet that Celest would NOT say the peace agreement was not broken....
Exactly.
Um, no. If a group of Serens kill Narsrim in response to him killing a Seren there still won't be a war. Would Narsrim complain? He's Narsrim so you can guess. Would the leaders of Celest go to war because Narsrim died once? I doubt they want to come out and declare themselves to be Narsrim's slaves like that.
There is no formal peace agreement therefore it can't be broken. I'll repeat it for you.
There is no formal peace agreement therefore it can't be broken.
If Serens are going to be too scared to fight back for fear of a war that supposedly they never wanted to end then they're just going to get snowplowed.
Unknown2006-10-30 22:29:14
On the topic of "Don't enjoy the game, leave."
Some people log in still because other depend on them. I logged onto Impy because my friends may have needed me, but I don't any more because quite honestly it just doesn't interest me. <.< I also had to go inactive after shelling out all that money to get my own bloodline. At least i know that someone I know personally is taking over the line. I log into Lusty every now and then because i have to take care of my wyvern and I feel bad if I don't since some people are hoping for me to be around. Maybe I'll find interest in Lusty and Impy again, just like I found interest in Neopets again. >.<
...And also some people wander the forums to keep up with the happenings of Lusty because they <3 the game.
Some people log in still because other depend on them. I logged onto Impy because my friends may have needed me, but I don't any more because quite honestly it just doesn't interest me. <.< I also had to go inactive after shelling out all that money to get my own bloodline. At least i know that someone I know personally is taking over the line. I log into Lusty every now and then because i have to take care of my wyvern and I feel bad if I don't since some people are hoping for me to be around. Maybe I'll find interest in Lusty and Impy again, just like I found interest in Neopets again. >.<
...And also some people wander the forums to keep up with the happenings of Lusty because they <3 the game.
Sylphas2006-10-30 22:30:45
We're reasonable, Celest isn't. I'd relish a clear cut opportunity to prove that to them. There is no peace agreement. Our law says, basically, "Don't be an ass and start things you can't handle yourself." If Narsrim starts killing us, and we kill him back, and he bitches, well, that's his problem. If he brings Celest into it, it just shows he can't handle his own problems, is a pansy, and that we were right all along that Celest is just being a bully and has no moral ground to stand on.
Unknown2006-10-30 22:31:32
QUOTE(Anarias @ Oct 30 2006, 11:27 PM) 348503
Would the leaders of Celest go to war because Narsrim died once? I doubt they want to come out and declare themselves to be Narsrim's slaves like that.
I think they would. The reason why Celest is so poweful nowadays is because they created a fighter autocracy - the best warriors can do what the hell they want, including rules-breaking, and they can get away with it. As such, they get the biggest number of fighters, including most of these who do not care which organisation they're in as long as they are in power.
That's how Magnagora was during Valek and Visaeris, and you know what? They were the dominant force of Lusty, too.
Anarias2006-10-30 22:35:05
QUOTE(Cuber @ Oct 30 2006, 03:31 PM) 348508
I think they would. The reason why Celest is so poweful nowadays is because they created a fighter autocracy - the best warriors can do what the hell they want, including rules-breaking, and they can get away with it. As such, they get the biggest number of fighters, including most of these who do not care which organisation they're in as long as they are in power.
That's how Magnagora was during Valek and Visaeris, and you know what? They were the dominant force of Lusty, too.
A fighter autocracy is different than waging war on a commune over one person's death. Magnagora isn't a good example of what you're explaining either. There were a lot more factors that put them in power early on simply because the game was so new. When Celest starts day one with -1000 power in their nexus of course they're not going to be able to do much.
Tzekelkan2006-10-30 22:36:05
QUOTE(Cuber @ Oct 30 2006, 11:31 PM) 348508
I think they would. The reason why Celest is so poweful nowadays is because they created a fighter autocracy - the best warriors can do what the hell they want, including rules-breaking, and they can get away with it. As such, they get the biggest number of fighters, including most of these who do not care which organisation they're in as long as they are in power.
That's how Magnagora was during Valek and Visaeris, and you know what? They were the dominant force of Lusty, too.
Well, that's normal. Unfair, but normal.
Shamarah2006-10-30 22:38:11
QUOTE(Cuber @ Oct 30 2006, 05:31 PM) 348508
I think they would. The reason why Celest is so poweful nowadays is because they created a fighter autocracy - the best warriors can do what the hell they want, including rules-breaking, and they can get away with it.
You say that like there's something wrong with it.
Shaeden2006-10-30 22:41:47
QUOTE(Cuber @ Oct 30 2006, 05:31 PM) 348508
I think they would. The reason why Celest is so poweful nowadays is because they created a fighter autocracy - the best warriors can do what the hell they want, including rules-breaking, and they can get away with it. As such, they get the biggest number of fighters, including most of these who do not care which organisation they're in as long as they are in power.
That's how Magnagora was during Valek and Visaeris, and you know what? They were the dominant force of Lusty, too.
What really bothers me about it, is all four GMs aren't big fighters. Alodia is okay, but she's no Shamarah. Maybe if a certain family was active more *cough* McClouds *cough* things would be better? Although, we are kicking a lot of but and I get to sit back and laugh
Ashteru2006-10-30 22:46:27
To bring back some niceness in here, Nico is now officially in my kool kid folder, together with Ildy, Lyco, D., and a few others. Cooome baaack.
yendos2006-10-30 22:46:46
GRAGH. My ISP is driving me crazy! I hate living in a small town and not being able to switch.
Noola2006-10-30 22:49:54
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Oct 30 2006, 04:46 PM) 348520
To bring back some niceness in here, Nico is now officially in my kool kid folder, together with Ildy, Lyco, D., and a few others. Cooome baaack.
I wanna be in the kook kid folder.
Ashteru2006-10-30 22:57:23
QUOTE(Noola @ Oct 30 2006, 11:49 PM) 348524
I wanna be in the kook kid folder.
Come be my kid.
Noola2006-10-30 22:59:36
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Oct 30 2006, 04:57 PM) 348527
Come be my kid.
You're awesome! Noola's already got a family though!
Acrune2006-10-30 23:27:51
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 30 2006, 05:30 PM) 348506
We're reasonable, Celest isn't. I'd relish a clear cut opportunity to prove that to them. There is no peace agreement. Our law says, basically, "Don't be an ass and start things you can't handle yourself." If Narsrim starts killing us, and we kill him back, and he bitches, well, that's his problem. If he brings Celest into it, it just shows he can't handle his own problems, is a pansy, and that we were right all along that Celest is just being a bully and has no moral ground to stand on.
I smell bias.
Forren2006-10-30 23:54:09
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Oct 30 2006, 10:30 PM) 348506
We're reasonable, Celest isn't. I'd relish a clear cut opportunity to prove that to them. There is no peace agreement. Our law says, basically, "Don't be an ass and start things you can't handle yourself." If Narsrim starts killing us, and we kill him back, and he bitches, well, that's his problem. If he brings Celest into it, it just shows he can't handle his own problems, is a pansy, and that we were right all along that Celest is just being a bully and has no moral ground to stand on.
What are you talking about?
The war started because we wanted Serenwilde to be reasonable in terms of having peaceful relations by stopping the constant raiding by 2+ members of its organization.
Jumping wherever isn't raiding. It's not covered under anything. Peaceful relations still exist.
Celest is reasonable.
Merkada2006-10-31 00:28:53
QUOTE(Noola @ Oct 30 2006, 03:20 PM) 348441
Joli and Shayle.
Am I the only one having fun?
I'm having fun.
QUOTE(shaeden @ Oct 30 2006, 04:41 PM) 348516
What really bothers me about it, is all four GMs aren't big fighters.
What do you mean, not huge fighters? Mom's a HUGE fighter! *hum*
Jack2006-10-31 00:34:21
I'm having fun too, though my fun is based on the premise that everyone else is miserable. Tee-hee.
Vesar2006-10-31 00:48:38
QUOTE(Anarias @ Oct 30 2006, 04:41 PM) 348460
Did anyone raid the Etherwilde? Were Aspects of Moon or Hart slain? Were villages attacked? Was there even a group of Celestians running around killing just Serens or was it just Narsrim alone being an ass?
Is there any reason the Serens can't get a group of people to punk Narsrim on the Astral plane or some other neutral territory in retaliation?
So again, there was no peace agreement that can be broken here so no there won't be a war over this.
Not as long as Vesar leads the city. That is clearly not part of the agreement, and thus is fair game. He could probably use a beat down.
Unknown2006-10-31 00:51:26
QUOTE(Anarias @ Oct 30 2006, 04:41 PM) 348460
Were Aspects of Moon or Hart slain?
AVATARS of moon, aspects of hart, AVATARS!
gahh!!!!
I've been trying to make people keep those separate for a year, it never works though!