The major followers of Lisaera didn't join Charune's Order. In fact, more like half or less of her followers joined his order. Most of the followers of Charune are actually people who weren't following any god before he game, from what I've seen, like Shorlen. This is the first Order Shorlen has ever been in.

Same with Laneth, he's never been in an order before.

I SHALL TEAR YOUR HEART OUT AND EAT IT FOR MAKING THAT GENERALIZATION!!!

Honestly though I’m sick too, some people just jumped guild/commune/ect as soon as she left, or as soon as they knew she was going to leave.

Edit:Though, in their defense, She handed the commune TO Charune, and also told all Her order members specific things which would lead them to not mourn overly for Her... which Zenji is doing anyway. Anywho, I only know of 1 Lisae who left for Charune's order. I don't count the outer circle Seekers, because, honestly I didn't know them that well.

I do feel bad for some of those we welcomed to the outer circle a week or so before She left though

In response to much of the random assumptions about Lisae ... I think I'm just going to laugh.

From my point of view, there were really five Lisae (active characters, actively working for Order things and with each other), coincidentally and luckily the last five mortals who saw Her in the temple just before She left. Beyond that, four (figuring generously) more barely-active characters who were also in the Order and a handful in the outer circle where we'd just begun managing to pick up interest here and there again. Everyone else in the Order was inactive.


Anyway, back to the ranting!

- Stupid weather fronts HANGING over the area for thunderstorms and heavy rain every fricking day ... which of course knocks out the Internet connection to kablooie.

- Why, oh why, can't I legitimately put "guildmistress of the Moondancers, has devoted many many many hours to working for areas of her affiliation" and other good things ... on a real life resume?

"Dedicated leader of others in social environments - willing to provide references if needed"

Is there something wrong with that?

She really needs to come back.

I hate people who attack during duels even when both participants tell them not to.

You are right, I am not Lupus and this is not Achaea. Gods in Lusternia are far more abstract in their views than Achaea, even if they appear to be focused around one thing. If the only thing you get from Charune's symbol is that "it is a hunt" then you obviously haven't grasped the abstract nature of Lusternia's gods. Fain's order symbol is a mask, should we say he is the god of dress up?

As for who is in Charune's order and who is not. There quite frankly is a range of people, very few of them being pacifists or bookworms, although some of them have proven to be quite useful when delegated to looking after such tasks.

Tee-hee. Fain's a transvestite.

Maybe if he carried around a "Tome of How to Dress Dolly"
And if his help file said he was the Lord of the Dress Up.
And maybe if his help file said his domain stretched across all wardrobes.

But it doesn't.

Yours, however, is 48% about the physical nature of the hunt, and the other 48% is about your dislike for cities. So don't act as if I'm pulling everything from your symbol, because i'm not. You surrounded yourself with items, a helpfile, a symbol, and an opening event that revolve around physical hunting.. and somehow you being abstract makes that all meaningless? That's a very.. silly explanation.

Actually I didn't deny the hunt being one aspect of Charune, one of a few actually. All I did was point out your narrow view of what he stood for was wrong. Yes, one of the things he symbolises is the hunt, I never said being abstract made that meaningless. I said that if that's the only thing you can get, then you don't understand the abstract nature of Lusternia's gods.

You are the one trying to constantly point out what Charune's Order should be about and how his order members suck for one reason or another because they don't appear to be what you think the order is about. I am merely telling you, what you think the order is about. Is wrong. There is really no further discussion that that.

*hands Fallen the Biggest Ego Around Crown*

You beat me. You're arguing with a god over his own doctrines.

I swear, I would so go Tracking and quit Magnagora and join Charune's order if Orti wasn't such a commune hater...

But then again, I was a pro light zealot so I don't know...


*slaps wrist*

Bad Cor, you are not supposed to hop guilds anymore... five is enough



PS: Shikari come back

I never said they were stupid, I said I thought it was a bit stupid for an Order of the Lord of the Hunt to be filled with those who doesn't really have any interest in what the Hunt is all about. That rush, that strategy, that essence of what it is to go after something.

I understand that the gods are abstract, but when every visible thing about you is about the Hunt... and you even call yourself the Lord of the Hunt.. people are going to assume that is your primary aspect. If its not, then you can't blame other people for assuming differently, and you lose any right to look down on them for doing so.

And Verithrax, I'm not trying to argue with him about his doctrines, but I'm not going to be talked down to by another person who is using a crap argument. Yes, guess what, Charune is a person. He was a player just like all of us, and this is an OOC forum--I won't automatically grovel.

The Hunt itself is a symbol, in addition to being the physical act. He can be Lord of the Hunt and still not have that be all of him. If that's what Lupus was all about, hunting things, then I'd say he was very narrow in his way of looking at things.

Lots of people IRL don't hunt just to kill things. They hunt because they love the woods, they hunt because they love to overcome challenges. The list goes on and on.

I understand that the Hunt can represent numerous things. I'm not dense. But if the physical Hunt wasn't his main aspect, why use the Hunt to be metaphorical for everything else? If his main aspect is solving problems, then call yourself the Lord of Solutions, and then you can tie hunting into that. But if you call yourself the Lord of the Hunt, its going to be assumed that your main aspect is the physical hunt... because why else would you use that as a symbol for other things, when you could use other things as symbols of it just as easily?

Trying to tell him what his IC behaviour should be or what his IC doctrines mean is like arguing with Isaac Asimov about the laws of robotics, or arguing with Gene Roddenberry about how powerful phasers are - Charune is in charge. He has the right to define his doctrine however he wishes. What he means by the analogy of the Hunt is what matters, not what your ideas are.

He's the Lord of the Hunt, and I am not certain he chose to be (Do Ephemerals get to pick what/who they play?) but what he's making out of it is his own decision.

That really hurts me...

you of all people....

Daganev has probabbly been my most evil charachter since Orone.

Sinister is different than evil

Sinister is a more flamboyent, everybody knows you're out to do bad things sort of evil. Evil has many degrees

Are you purposely not comprehending this? He could use other things to symbolize the hunt, but then he loses a lot. That's like saying the God of Learning should use a calculator as his symbol, because learning math is part of learning. The Hunt symbolizes many things. You can't use those things themselves, or you'd be the God of This, and That, and The Other Thing, also Etc. That is exactly why we HAVE symbols.