I object to Arix being Arix.

I also object to Arix karma cursing me (though, as curses go, death curse isn't that bad).

I had to curse you. It's not like I can attack you without dying.

That's true.

Although, I have to point out that the quest is insanely difficult to achieve... it took us three attempts before people left the hatched snakes alive long enough to be transported to Serenwilde, and then it takes upwards of a few hours (at least) of constant watching over the baby snakes and bringing them back when they escape. For what? A couple of extra adders (four, I believe, since you have to leave two) until a newbie walks past and decides to kill them again.

Edit: As far as Glomdoring goes, I believe there is favouritism in play. The bashing ground remaining, doubled totems taking a huge time to repair, poison monopolies, spider monopolies, the fae events, the tree event, divine dreamweaver protection... its there, and while it might have been compassion when they were new and fledgelings, there is NO reason to treat them as having any handicap anymore. It's been what, almost a year?

The glomdoring players can't be blamed for this, obviously. They might choose to recognise and support the imbalances, maybe even modifying their IG behaviour slightly, but they certainly aren't required to. They can only do what they think is best. The perceived favouritism does breed a lot of hostility towards them, however.

Cat: it's what's for dinner.

You forgot to mention the "bug" where Glomdoring wins ties in prestige contests, which has given them over 50,000 extra power so far (yes, I did the math). That's bug has been known about for what, over a month OOC? And nothing has been done about it?

Sorry, but there's just way too much evidence pointing to admin favoritism. Again, nothing against the playerbase, just admin favoritism.

I was going to ignore this as most of it is laughable, but this caught my attention. What does the prestige have/do that makes it appear to be inherently swayed to Glomdoring? And, more precisely, why would Roark or Estarra, both neutral parties, or Lisaera, a Serenwilde patron of the time, purposely code it to sway it to any particular organization? Not only would that be stupid, it'd take more work for them. It's insulting to them, to say the least.

Looking over the contests of the past, which was really Elcyrion's thing, it appears to work more like this. There are two contests within the whole contest - I believe Literary, and Scholarly. Let's say a Winning score is 100 points out of 100, and a tying score is 50 out of 100 for each side. If Serenwilde, for example, wins the Literary contest, they gain 100 points. If Serenwilde and Magnagora tie for Scholarly, they each get 50 points. Thus, Serenwilde has 150 points total, and wins. They get the power. Magnagora doesn't. It simply has nothing to do with organization, from what I've seen thusfar.



Serenwilde has a monopoly on a poison it seems, according to posts here, in addition to the longtime monopoly they had on alchemy, before player demand pushed Us to release Glomdoring. Their totems had problems originally as well, which they complained quite adamently about when they were finally fixed to work as they had been intended to work. Glomdoring totems have been worked on repeatedly, the coders have been pestered about them many times as well. The extensive coding was being done by - you guessed it. Estarra, Roark, and Lisaera - and we've just lost Lisaera. Estarra announced the fact she was moving in the auctions thread. Give them a small break.

Also - it might not seem like it, but an area is *not* made in a day's time, not even a small one. They, even the smallest aetherbubbles, take a great deal of time, and effort to make. As much as We'd like to snap our fingers and have a huge area with quests, interesting rooms and a wonderful history, filled with all sorts of items, animals and denizens and their unique attacks prepared in an instant for you all, (and filled to the damned brim with spiders) it simply cannot happen.

We're all working as fast as we can - honest.

I hate how Munsia lives in utter silence for ages, and the second Narsrim comes back, starts dancing and hopping around Faethorn taunting us like a child


That's great you're there, just shut the hell up. Why don't you grow a bit and learn to do something like that on your own, instead of relying on the strength of somebody else to back you? If you're gonna raid, raid with a huge team, if you're going to be a nuisance, learn to be a nuisance on your own.

-Grumble-



EDIT:: And why isn't this most amazing thread pinned?! ::Begs:: It should be, it's wonderful!

The way Prestige actually works is that there are two seperate contests, the literary and the scholarly contest. Each one has as the prize 500 power per OOC day for the organization that wins. Whenever a tie occurs, rather than either both or neither tying party getting the bonus, Glomdoring gets it and the other group does not. I was told that this was bugged, and the response was that it wasn't a bug and working as intended.

As far as spiders go - swamps and jungles HAVE been released since Glomdoring. :shrug:

I hate how my puppy apparently doesn't like the kennel my parents put him in or something and he keeps me up BARKING outside my WINDOW for HOURS every night since we've got him and I haven't gotten any sleep and I have to work today but I can barely stay awake and my grammar and spelling are even going to hell and I want to kick the damn puppy but he's cute when he's not barking and making a pain of himself so I won't be able to so until he settles into the damn kettle I won't be able to get any sleep BUT I STILL HAVE TO WORK also, I thought Vix would be back today but apparently not, which is annoying, argh, stupid timezones

However it is working, it's not leaning towards or against any organization - it should work the way it seems to be now, no matter which organization it is that 'wins', in the same situations as the contests seem to have gone now. If Serenwilde won one, and tied another, the points should go to them - meaning it isn't broken. It just means that Serenwilde did better, in that situation and the resulting points reflected it.

I really don't understand - both prizes are supposed to go to just one org? Then why before, when different organizations won the different contests, did they each get their prizes? You know, for... winning... the contests...?

Let's say there are 100 weighted points for scholarly, and 100 weighted points for literary.

If there's a tie, the weighted points determine who gets the winning points, and the weighted points are split equally amongst the tying organizations.

That's how I'm reading it, at least. Your example would seem to fit this perfectly.

Then it's not a bug, it's just a flawed way of doing it.

I already explained it once, but I'll take another stab at it.

In contest ONE, Serenwilde wins! Yay! They get 500 points.

In contest TWO, there is no clear winner! Serenwilde has scored 80, lets say, on their book. But oh no! Magnagora, in a show of skill and talent, has also had their book score an 80, thus making the scores tie. Meaning, as it has been designed so there cannot be two 'winners' for a single contest, in this case, 'Contest two', there is a bit of a standstill.

So, how can it be decided who should really win? Which organization did better this contest? Having already won contest ONE, it would seem clear that Serenwilde displayed excellent skill already - they already have '500 points'. Due to the tie of contest TWO, it would seem those 'points' must be split to determine who the overall winner should be, even if both will not share the prize. Even if they are not 'split', as shown below, Serenwilde still has a decisive lead in points over Magnagora, due to their domination of contest ONE.

So.

..................CONTEST ONE......CONTEST TWO............TOTAL SCORE.........
..Serenwilde: 500 points ...... 250 points ............. 750 points ............
..Magnagora: 0 points ....... 250 points ............. 250 points ...........
............................................................................................................

With three times the total points, according to the first theory, they are the best writers that month, so they 'win' on both counts. It won't lean for, or against, a specific organization. Elcyrion would have had a *fit* if it had been coded that way.

thats odd, how would it work if Mag won Lit, then Seren and Celest tied for scholar?

It would seem that Mag in that case would gain points for both contests.

I hate how I'm a newbie and I want to play Lusternia but I can't because my IRL takes up far too much time, so when I do want to relax, I only get to play Lusternia for a little while, and then I die cause I'm stupid. Grr.

Meh, and here I was, thinking Lusternia was a well coded game, and basing my opinions off of that Ah well, at least the players are awesome.

As for Glomdoring's ridiculous monopoly on several things... I see no reason why they shouldn't be forced to change their RP. Serenwilde had to.. Remember the Faethorn event? Remember Grutina's return?

However, I think it would be best if certain mechanical things were changed... Change Ecology so that Serenwilde members do not have to hunt down Glomdoring creatures to fully access the skill.. and do the same for members of Glomdoring. Make two different versions of Ecology since both communes obviously have their own opinions on Nature anyway. Also, place spiders in a cave somewhere in the mountains or somesuch... or change the Tosha quest to require another animal.. Sabre-tooth tigers or mammoths perhaps? Sandojins? Gorgogs?

I find it a bit amusing that Serenwilde only has one poison within its boundaries.. and even that is easily accessed since Northern Serenwilde is much more difficult to monitor and defend with guards and totems. Stroll in, prints, mimic frog. Heck, with the amount of active totems in the Northern Serenwilde.. stroll in, roam randomly to find frog. It's been done before with people who cut down trees.. It can still be done. It would be very nice if we could bond more than one totem (4 max?) at a time, much like enchanters and statues, since we have so much territory to protect. Maybe if runes worked on totems regardless of them being bonded or not... but of course that's just plain overpowered.

Edit: And as a note.. I wouldn't mind it if Glomdoring was forced into admitting that it is tainted.. Serenwilde was forced into admitting that Glomdoring wasn't. And plus, even the mechanics still support the idea that the Blacktalon forests are tainted.. "You raise your arms and hum deeply the note of the forest. Around you, the taint seeps out of the trees and plant life, which start to look greener and healthier than before." I'm still trying to figure that one out...

... don't even go there...

*covers her mammoth's ears*