Raiha2008-11-02 03:17:43
I'm talking about college. And I'm not talking group project that involve a mild amount of work. I'm talking about a group project that involves a 10,000 word report, complete with statistics and graphs, references, interviews, and a presentation of at least 15 minutes.
Presentation is Thursday, paper is due Friday. I have a finance exam to worry about Wednesday, too, and they're long and annoying.
College is terrible, I don't recommend it at all.
Presentation is Thursday, paper is due Friday. I have a finance exam to worry about Wednesday, too, and they're long and annoying.
College is terrible, I don't recommend it at all.
Unknown2008-11-02 03:18:53
Whenever I was in group projects, I was auto-assigned as leader... and ended up doing everyone's work in case they didn't, and if they did, I edited their work. After all, group grades are group grades. You're part of that group.
Raiha2008-11-02 03:19:44
QUOTE(Myrkr @ Nov 1 2008, 11:18 PM) 578351
Whenever I was in group projects, I was auto-assigned as leader... and ended up doing everyone's work in case they didn't, and if they did, I edited their work. After all, group grades are group grades. You're part of that group.
I don't understand how that makes it any more fair or less rant-worthy.
Diamondais2008-11-02 03:19:51
QUOTE(Ardmore @ Nov 1 2008, 11:07 PM) 578347
Are we talking about high school or college here?
Both.
I have the same problem. I usually get pushed into groups because I'm first year and new to the city, so most people have either known each other from their first years or have known each other due to living in Sault Ste Marie. It sucks for getting in touch with people. However, in Geography (my professor for Geology and Geography has a thing for group projects, I swear ) my one friend I've made thanks to the roommates has told me from now own we're just going to work together as my group mates have ditched me before.
Also, since I hurt my foot by smashing it hard into my bed frame around the Canadian Thanksgiving (so.. it would've been the weekend of the 10th) it still hurts and now I'm just wearing a tensor bandage to stop it from hurting (that works) but it's damn itchy!
Boo at having to go to the hospital if I want any checking done on it, ER's are not fun.
Unknown2008-11-02 03:25:05
QUOTE(Raiha @ Nov 1 2008, 11:19 PM) 578353
I don't understand how that makes it any more fair or less rant-worthy.
I wasn't saying it was fair or wasn't rant worthy.
I was just relating.
Acrune2008-11-03 03:15:54
Group work is lame, just like the rest of school. Grit your teeth and suffer through it, and get that stupid paper so you can move on with your life.
Kaalak2008-11-03 05:39:22
QUOTE(Archer2 @ Nov 1 2008, 06:48 PM) 578340
What the hell is the point?
It's just so that the lazy teacher doesn't have to mark 30 papers, only 4 or 5.
It's just so that the lazy teacher doesn't have to mark 30 papers, only 4 or 5.
Answered your own question.
QUOTE(Raiha @ Nov 1 2008, 06:48 PM) 578340
I'm talking about college. And I'm not talking group project that involve a mild amount of work. I'm talking about a group project that involves a 10,000 word report, complete with statistics and graphs, references, interviews, and a presentation of at least 15 minutes.
Once you do them on a weekly basis they are not too difficult. Make a template for those reports/presentations and just crank them out.
Go to sleep with the warm fuzzy feeling that those who didn't pull their own weight won't be hired in this economy .
Noola2008-11-03 10:13:09
Ah, group projects. Gotta love em.
When I was in college, I took an advertising class. We were divided into groups of three and told to create an advertising campaign to sell a product that included print, radio and television coverage.
Halfway through the project one of my group dropped the class. On the day of the presentation, which was done before not just the teacher and class but also some actual advertising execs the teacher was friends with where there to 'judge' the presentations, the other member of my group didn't show. So, I had to do the presentation solo. Which was fine as I'd done 2/3 of the work. However the 1/3 that was the no-show's responsibility included several key facts... like the expenses for the television markets. I had done the research for the radio and print, and he was doing the television. I shoulda known something like that was gonna happen cause the class before the presentation, he didn't have his reports with him but assured me they were ready to go and I, like a ninny, trusted him.
Anyway, I basically pulled numbers out of my rear. Of course, they weren't right and I got docked for being so 'unrealistic' in my estimates. Also, the execs called me out and were all, "Where did you get those numbers for television? That's really low."
But I didn't get docked too much cause the teacher knew I'd kinda been screwed by my teammates.
And my actual rant is... I can't freakin sleep. I've tried to go to sleep three times and just can't. It's after 4am and I've got to be up in three hours. Insomnia sucks.
When I was in college, I took an advertising class. We were divided into groups of three and told to create an advertising campaign to sell a product that included print, radio and television coverage.
Halfway through the project one of my group dropped the class. On the day of the presentation, which was done before not just the teacher and class but also some actual advertising execs the teacher was friends with where there to 'judge' the presentations, the other member of my group didn't show. So, I had to do the presentation solo. Which was fine as I'd done 2/3 of the work. However the 1/3 that was the no-show's responsibility included several key facts... like the expenses for the television markets. I had done the research for the radio and print, and he was doing the television. I shoulda known something like that was gonna happen cause the class before the presentation, he didn't have his reports with him but assured me they were ready to go and I, like a ninny, trusted him.
Anyway, I basically pulled numbers out of my rear. Of course, they weren't right and I got docked for being so 'unrealistic' in my estimates. Also, the execs called me out and were all, "Where did you get those numbers for television? That's really low."
But I didn't get docked too much cause the teacher knew I'd kinda been screwed by my teammates.
And my actual rant is... I can't freakin sleep. I've tried to go to sleep three times and just can't. It's after 4am and I've got to be up in three hours. Insomnia sucks.
Unknown2008-11-03 10:47:11
Aww poor Noola. Insomnia is bad. I'll never understand because my problem is sleeping too much
I also probably have to head to work in 3 hours but I just finished a nine hour long nap (at least, it was supposed to be considered a nap) from 3pm-1am. I was awake for a total of <8 hours on sunday. Now I have no idea when I should go back to sleep.
I also probably have to head to work in 3 hours but I just finished a nine hour long nap (at least, it was supposed to be considered a nap) from 3pm-1am. I was awake for a total of <8 hours on sunday. Now I have no idea when I should go back to sleep.
Noola2008-11-03 22:22:02
I don't like it when the time changes.
I feel all out of whack and like I'm constantly running behind.
I feel all out of whack and like I'm constantly running behind.
Acrune2008-11-03 22:27:26
I'm frustrated that so many of my friends support Obama. Its lonely, can't wait for this election to be over
Tervic2008-11-03 23:00:14
Freaking rain of stupid fish bannana... PICKLE POTATO WIGGLE SMURF! GARBLEWHARGLE I HATE THE STUPIDFISH RAIN LACK OF PIE FREEZING LIKE A POLAR BEAR'S LEFT TOE AUGH. Cheese buckets of doom and lobsters need the printing in order to destroy the Soviet Missile!
:headdesk:
Translation: I'm in college, where the only realistic mode of transport is by bike. It's raining. It's cold. I got crashed into. I hate jerkwads who go out biking without being able to properly control their bikes. They need to go... crash into a lamp post or something. So do stupidfish pedestrians who think it's funny to jump in front of bikes, or walk such that they're blocking the entire bike path even though the university just remodeled the entire central area of campus to have separate bike and pedestrian paths, even though it was a stupid idea and created more chokepoints of fail. GRRRRRRRR.
Also, I hate that the news channels are STILL doing gorforsaken election coverage, and announcing %votes of absentee voters. SHUT UP AND LET MY BALLOT BE SECRET, YOU MASSIVE FISH PICKLERS.
:headdesk:
Translation: I'm in college, where the only realistic mode of transport is by bike. It's raining. It's cold. I got crashed into. I hate jerkwads who go out biking without being able to properly control their bikes. They need to go... crash into a lamp post or something. So do stupidfish pedestrians who think it's funny to jump in front of bikes, or walk such that they're blocking the entire bike path even though the university just remodeled the entire central area of campus to have separate bike and pedestrian paths, even though it was a stupid idea and created more chokepoints of fail. GRRRRRRRR.
Also, I hate that the news channels are STILL doing gorforsaken election coverage, and announcing %votes of absentee voters. SHUT UP AND LET MY BALLOT BE SECRET, YOU MASSIVE FISH PICKLERS.
Shaddus2008-11-03 23:11:40
Apparently,my wife signed up with a company. This company sold her 5 years worth of subscriptions for 5 magazines. For a sum of 700 dollars. Which they charge at about 60$ a month, for a year, when I'm the only one with a job. Got all that?
Now, we haven't been getting the magazines she asked for, so after about 5 months, she asked them to stop the subscriptions, They inform us that if we do, we will owe about half of the balance, or about 350 dollars, right away. Right before Thanksgiving, Christmas, and all of that.
I hate my life. And people wonder why I'm always on Lusternia.
Now, we haven't been getting the magazines she asked for, so after about 5 months, she asked them to stop the subscriptions, They inform us that if we do, we will owe about half of the balance, or about 350 dollars, right away. Right before Thanksgiving, Christmas, and all of that.
I hate my life. And people wonder why I'm always on Lusternia.
Desitrus2008-11-04 08:02:45
QUOTE(Shaddus Mes @ Nov 3 2008, 05:11 PM) 578696
Apparently,my wife signed up with a company. This company sold her 5 years worth of subscriptions for 5 magazines. For a sum of 700 dollars. Which they charge at about 60$ a month, for a year, when I'm the only one with a job. Got all that?
Now, we haven't been getting the magazines she asked for, so after about 5 months, she asked them to stop the subscriptions, They inform us that if we do, we will owe about half of the balance, or about 350 dollars, right away. Right before Thanksgiving, Christmas, and all of that.
I hate my life. And people wonder why I'm always on Lusternia.
Now, we haven't been getting the magazines she asked for, so after about 5 months, she asked them to stop the subscriptions, They inform us that if we do, we will owe about half of the balance, or about 350 dollars, right away. Right before Thanksgiving, Christmas, and all of that.
I hate my life. And people wonder why I'm always on Lusternia.
Only solution is domestic violence. If she loves you, she'll come back.
In reality, void your commitment sometime next year, 60 dollars a month for two months leaves more room for turkey day and present day.
Xiel2008-11-04 08:26:40
Roar, midterms on election day.
Noola2008-11-04 08:29:47
I just discovered the bus system in Little rock isn't offering free service for Election Day. It doesn't matter so much for me, cause I have a pass, but WTF? Just when I thought the bus system couldn't fail any more.
Desitrus2008-11-04 16:13:36
QUOTE(Noola @ Nov 4 2008, 02:29 AM) 578906
I just discovered the bus system in Little rock isn't offering free service for Election Day. It doesn't matter so much for me, cause I have a pass, but WTF? Just when I thought the bus system couldn't fail any more.
On a day when lots of people want a ride, a business doesn't offer freebies when their deal is offering rides to people who need rides.
Dooooooooooooesn't seem odd to me.
Noola2008-11-04 16:16:22
QUOTE(Desitrus @ Nov 4 2008, 10:13 AM) 578973
On a day when lots of people want a ride, a business doesn't offer freebies when their deal is offering rides to people who need rides.
Dooooooooooooesn't seem odd to me.
Dooooooooooooesn't seem odd to me.
But it's ELECTION DAY!
I dunno. Maybe it's cause the last place I lived where I relied on public transportation had an amazing public transportation system. Besides all the other ways it is far superior to the one here, they always offered free rides on Election Day because they were civic minded enough to want to encourage folks to vote and make it even easier to do so.
It just shocked me that the bus system here.... isn't.
Gregori2008-11-04 17:28:38
QUOTE(Tervic @ Nov 3 2008, 05:00 PM) 578688
Freaking rain of stupid fish bannana... PICKLE POTATO WIGGLE SMURF! GARBLEWHARGLE I HATE THE STUPIDFISH RAIN LACK OF PIE FREEZING LIKE A POLAR BEAR'S LEFT TOE AUGH. Cheese buckets of doom and lobsters need the printing in order to destroy the Soviet Missile!
:headdesk:
Translation: I'm in college, where the only realistic mode of transport is by bike. It's raining. It's cold. I got crashed into. I hate jerkwads who go out biking without being able to properly control their bikes. They need to go... crash into a lamp post or something. So do stupidfish pedestrians who think it's funny to jump in front of bikes, or walk such that they're blocking the entire bike path even though the university just remodeled the entire central area of campus to have separate bike and pedestrian paths, even though it was a stupid idea and created more chokepoints of fail. GRRRRRRRR.
Also, I hate that the news channels are STILL doing gorforsaken election coverage, and announcing %votes of absentee voters. SHUT UP AND LET MY BALLOT BE SECRET, YOU MASSIVE FISH PICKLERS.
:headdesk:
Translation: I'm in college, where the only realistic mode of transport is by bike. It's raining. It's cold. I got crashed into. I hate jerkwads who go out biking without being able to properly control their bikes. They need to go... crash into a lamp post or something. So do stupidfish pedestrians who think it's funny to jump in front of bikes, or walk such that they're blocking the entire bike path even though the university just remodeled the entire central area of campus to have separate bike and pedestrian paths, even though it was a stupid idea and created more chokepoints of fail. GRRRRRRRR.
Also, I hate that the news channels are STILL doing gorforsaken election coverage, and announcing %votes of absentee voters. SHUT UP AND LET MY BALLOT BE SECRET, YOU MASSIVE FISH PICKLERS.
After reading all that I have decided... you have to much anger towards fish.
Get back in your class room Harry Pottah!
Furien2008-11-05 00:20:51
School. Moreover, the people inside it, and how they've been acting, lately.
Out of the AP Courses offered for my year, History probably has the most homework. I have it every morning, first period. After that comes AP English Comp, and after that comes AP Chemistry, then lunch. I've got all my AP classes in a row, no breaks in between.
Those born more fortunate have History in their 4th or 5th periods.
Every day when I walk into English, I am 'The Guy'. As in, The Guy Who Has History First Period. So, everyone mobs me with questions- What are we doing today? Is there homework? Is she giving us a quiz? Is there a pop quiz? Was anything due today? Is anything due tomorrow?
I could honestly deal with this for awhile, but now that it's becoming more obvious that a few people are abusing my general desire to help others, I'm starting to get really pissed off. No, I'm not going to tell you if there's something due today. If something was due today, you would know- the teacher tells you. And if you had any sense of responsibility, you'd have done it at home or before the class is just an hour away. I have to do this every morning. I don't lean on anyone. I can't procrastinate or spend any of my periods doing homework for my AP classes that happen later in the day, because ALL MY HARD CLASSES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACHOTHER FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
No, I'm not going to let you copy my homework because you were on Myspace all night. You're in an AP class, you should know better by now. I'm tired of babying you. Just because you call me the class genius doesn't mean I'm a tool.
Yes, go ahead, throw a fit. How dare I suggest you take some academic responsibility for a change! Our value of friendship seems to differ wildly, too! Whenever you do something nice for me, you'll write it down somewhere and keep track, waiting for a moment when you up and then suddenly demand I return the favour. That's not what -my- friendships are all about. If I do something nice for someone, I do it simply to -be- nice. The act itself isn't expectant of a reward- the act -is- the reward. I'm not going to try and blackmail you into copying homework or cheating off tests or anything just because I've helped you out.
Speaking of cheating? This guy's been doing it on every single Chemistry test. He has his friend, sitting right next to him, whisper across all the answers. He doesn't even have to study. I'm getting sick of it. They sit right behind me, and I can hear them copying and cheating. He copies his friend's lab report every time we do a lab. During the one test where his friend wasn't there, his score dropped to -three and a half- out of 17.
It's not just this guy, who I was under the impression was a friend, who is pissing me off, either. It's the people in general. I've never seen so much petty side-choosing and scheming in a school environment in my life. It's a grade, people- the grade can be improved. Just because someone got less than you on a test doesn't mean they're a retard. There's no reason for you to form a study group for the class and deliberately exclude other people. I'd have thought the obvious answer is that -everyone- would succeed (and that everyone has the potential to ace the class) if people would just help eachother out for a change, but that's apparently not the case. Is it that hard, really? Study a bit. Don't understand it? Ask for help. That's what the teacher is there for. That's what the other students -should- be there for.
I don't know what to do at this point, but today has probably made me the most bitter and world-weary I've felt in a very long time.
Out of the AP Courses offered for my year, History probably has the most homework. I have it every morning, first period. After that comes AP English Comp, and after that comes AP Chemistry, then lunch. I've got all my AP classes in a row, no breaks in between.
Those born more fortunate have History in their 4th or 5th periods.
Every day when I walk into English, I am 'The Guy'. As in, The Guy Who Has History First Period. So, everyone mobs me with questions- What are we doing today? Is there homework? Is she giving us a quiz? Is there a pop quiz? Was anything due today? Is anything due tomorrow?
I could honestly deal with this for awhile, but now that it's becoming more obvious that a few people are abusing my general desire to help others, I'm starting to get really pissed off. No, I'm not going to tell you if there's something due today. If something was due today, you would know- the teacher tells you. And if you had any sense of responsibility, you'd have done it at home or before the class is just an hour away. I have to do this every morning. I don't lean on anyone. I can't procrastinate or spend any of my periods doing homework for my AP classes that happen later in the day, because ALL MY HARD CLASSES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO EACHOTHER FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
No, I'm not going to let you copy my homework because you were on Myspace all night. You're in an AP class, you should know better by now. I'm tired of babying you. Just because you call me the class genius doesn't mean I'm a tool.
Yes, go ahead, throw a fit. How dare I suggest you take some academic responsibility for a change! Our value of friendship seems to differ wildly, too! Whenever you do something nice for me, you'll write it down somewhere and keep track, waiting for a moment when you up and then suddenly demand I return the favour. That's not what -my- friendships are all about. If I do something nice for someone, I do it simply to -be- nice. The act itself isn't expectant of a reward- the act -is- the reward. I'm not going to try and blackmail you into copying homework or cheating off tests or anything just because I've helped you out.
Speaking of cheating? This guy's been doing it on every single Chemistry test. He has his friend, sitting right next to him, whisper across all the answers. He doesn't even have to study. I'm getting sick of it. They sit right behind me, and I can hear them copying and cheating. He copies his friend's lab report every time we do a lab. During the one test where his friend wasn't there, his score dropped to -three and a half- out of 17.
It's not just this guy, who I was under the impression was a friend, who is pissing me off, either. It's the people in general. I've never seen so much petty side-choosing and scheming in a school environment in my life. It's a grade, people- the grade can be improved. Just because someone got less than you on a test doesn't mean they're a retard. There's no reason for you to form a study group for the class and deliberately exclude other people. I'd have thought the obvious answer is that -everyone- would succeed (and that everyone has the potential to ace the class) if people would just help eachother out for a change, but that's apparently not the case. Is it that hard, really? Study a bit. Don't understand it? Ask for help. That's what the teacher is there for. That's what the other students -should- be there for.
I don't know what to do at this point, but today has probably made me the most bitter and world-weary I've felt in a very long time.