This fistsigil idea is not the same as the idea to increase parry...

Estarra was looking at mana cost recution or keeping those items always in the person's hand. Sort of like the Warrior ability of Grip.



Are there any artifacts that do that?

even the cheapest jewlery rune gives +10 charges.

Someone suggested an increase to parry in the thread.

yes that was me... it was quickly knocked out. (pun intended to add confusion!)

edit: Just pointing out that it was rejected immediatly and nobody is still considering that idea... was trying to clarify, incase you thought Estarra mentioning the fist sigil was the same as the idea to increase parry since both ideas came from the same post...

And that's the idea that I suggested was rediculous. I didn't say anything about the fist sigil thing.

Minor chance to afflict might be nice. Chills for Aquamancers, Healthleech(Maybe Epilepsy, but that's considerably stronger) for Geomancers, Maybe bleeding(as in, the one that adds 20 bleeding and stops you clotting) for Druids, as that would be a nice bonus.

I feel the need to point out it's not rediculous, it's ridiculous. Since you use that a lot.

Doesn't your demesne already give chills? Wouldn't that like...make it a lot better since you can be frozen then?

My main concern is if it'd be something that benefitted me even though I won't be using my athame for attacking.

...kinda like the parrying idea

And I feel the need to point out that it's rediculous so long as I want it to be rediculous

When i'm typing on a forum, I'm writing quickly and tend to be much more phonetic, and I pronounce it rediculous, so that's how it gets put down. Deal

I'm with the Daevos on this one.

*shrug* I only use my athame for faeriefire, vine, nature rooting spells, and random wiccan rituals, otherwise it's Moonburst. (unless I'm stuck without drawdown during an odd part of the day)

Moonburst already costs more mana then athame(do activate and in mana consumption), but I use it for hunting/fighting because of the increased damage. If the athame's mana cost was lowered through a rune, I wouldn't feel a need to get it for that reason, I hardly ever even remember to resummon my torc if it decays on me(and the torc effects all spells mana cost). Again, just speaking for Athames, they last 5 months and take no effort to resummon, so having them resetting isn't very exiting either.

Custimization does sound sort of interesting though.
Again, not appealing for wiccans with sprites and 4-5k mana.


Someone mentioned mounts, and yes, the wiccan's broom is useful for us without wings, but if there is a rune that effected it, it should be placed on the broom, not an athame.

But you wouldn't be able to place the runes on the Mage/Druid animals.

It's true, but it's also my point, I'm trying to point out the differences between staves/symbols/cudgels and the athame. Any who have trans moon/night don't use athames often; the other three are used often.

We could have Moonburst and Nightkiss need an athame to use.

(I suspect warriors don't use those spells as they get the weapon boosts.)

Actually, that's not true.

My Moon/Night warriors have used it. And I know others do as well, or at least they used to.

I've known several warriors who use them to bash. It's a godsend for the rare mugwump warrior. Anyway, I'm still all for the 'no decay/resets/customizable' set-up, with no frills. You'll sell plenty of them with that alone.

Nightkiss / moonburst are often better for warrior bashing and hunting. Diamante used it all the time, especially with the +magic damage artifact.

Also, out of curiosity - do +magic damage runes affect the damage done by warriors who have magical damage great runes on their weapons?

I find myself worrying that I'm agreeing with Guido.

I'd actually love if Moonburst used my athame. Just make it so that Wiccans require it, and Warriors can use one of their weapons for it.

And I agree with the no-frills straight customization. Not sure if I'd use it, but it's a nice option to have, even without any combat benefit. (I'm still secretly pining for a custom witch's hat I can stick things in, if I customize anything.)