The skills of 'squirrel' in totems and 'carrion' in necromancy should be removed. Furthermore, the level 80+ 'no eating' bonus ought to be disabled.

The squirrel and carriot skills pretty much ensure that most forestals and Magnagorans have no use of cooks besides herofetes and +stat meals. No other tradeskill is as useless as cooking, especially not as a result of other skills. What if there were a skill in knighthood that allowed you to summon a full set of clothing? Bye bye, tailors. Or a lowmagic skill that let you cast any enchantment? Bye bye, enchanters. How about if warriors could summon a high-end weapon from midair without every touching a forge?

As it stands, cooking is only profitable among novices, Geomancers, and Celestians. Even then, however, once you hit level eighty you'll never need a bite to eat again, except maybe in the middle of a fight if you don't have lowmagic (for orange). In other realms the bonus isn't too crippling to anyone, because I'm pretty sure that many tradeskills are not nearly as integral to their structure. Don't you have to pay a large number of credits just to become a chef in Achaea?

So, yeah. Everyone above level eighty will bitch about losing their conveniance, but it's necessary for cooking for be half-good.

I know a lot of people don't bother with squirrel because it's annoying to find food with it. It's not like Achaea where you can hop on the wilderness map and eat for free.

The level 80 thing is silly. Nejii is 80, and he's ranked 88th. There's fewer than 100 people who get that bonus.

Carrion is more of a problem than squirrel, but if you want, give us something else, I barely use it.

How about totems? Most of them right there.

I disagree with everything you said. Squirrel is a pain to use, I've never had success with it from any of my alts, and carion, eh, who cares? Its a skill that some people have, and some don't, big deal. I don't think the problem is anywhere near to what you're saying it is.

Ok, having seen and benefited from the sort of profit Ibaesha made off of being a Trans cook with a spatula.. you're flat out wrong. We made so much money off of her shop it wasn't even funny. And that was in Serenwilde, home of the Squirrel totem you hate so much.

Yeah cooking is really profitable if you can afford a spatula kinda like selling gems for jewelry too, but I can understand where Guido is coming from...what if at level 80 you didn't need refills anymore! Wouldn't that be cool

With a shop, cooking seems good. I just buy food instead of using totems... I know what you mean... Well, what if you needed a shop to make money of any of the other trade skills?

Oh, wait.

Trade skills aren't meant to make money despite their name (except if you're an herbalist with all the time and luck in the world). Cooking is one of those skills that requires more effort to turn a profit.

You can't 'ave looked hard enough Then again, I'm probably in a different time zone from you. Silq can get foragables 50% of the time.

Only time I get reliable forage is in the Isles while I'm hunting, because there's nothing on the one but woods.

You can forage in druid-cast terrain as well.

I've heard many times how much profit can be made of cooking.
Besides, forging is pretty much just for 4 guilds out of 12. Poisons for... 6?

In other words, straight no to your suggestions.

Carrion means that 2/3 of Magnagora never has to buy food. It's the second skill in necromancy, so if you're a Nihilist or Ur'guard (unless you're one of the two people with tracking), you don't need to buy food.

And saying "it's worth a ton if you own a spatula!" is BS. Those things cost 300 credits - roughly 1.2 million gold. Have you earned 1,200,000 gold from cooking yet? Shop owning, spatula wielding, known-by-everyone chefs aren't exactly the norm.

I hate people who say "These are worthless, you'll never make up the gold it would have cost". You didn't buy them with gold, you bought them with credits. It doesn't compare. I'll drop 100 credits on something without much problem. I won't drop 400k gold on something the same way.

Squirrel totem was bugged for a few months there, it's been fixed for the past week or so though, so no one should be complaining about it.

Thats funny because you can't wear clothing with armour... if you have knighthood you really have no need for clothing other than RP.

Ibaesha and I (and I use that term because I bought the spatula and wrote her cooking script and paid for part of the shop) made about 20k a day average from our shop. If you add that up, the spatula paid for itself in 60 days (not counting cost of commodities used to cook, but that doesn't add much more time). We made enough gold for manse rooms, and to keep her rift stocked with 2000 of every cooking commodity, as well as for her to trans skills.

You really don't know what you're talking about, Guido.

Hell, people even say trailoring sucks as a tradeskill, but as Jairdan I made 20k a day when I owned as shop as well. Really, if you've got a shop, you should be making bank if you're smart.

You can make more money bashing in the time it takes to use squirrel (anywhere between a minute and ten minutes to be utterl satiated, in my experience) so I really don't think squirrel is that big a deal. I do know it's helped me a few times when as a itsy bitsy character I've had no money and been just about starved though.

Just ran around Glomdoring and went from 'weak from hunger' to 'utterly satiated' in about 45 seconds using forage. Sure has been fixed. And it's also a bit silly to assume that everyone can afford a shop.

No it isn't. You can lease space in a shop if you have to. If you really want it, it'll happen. And it pays off.

You can't expect a profit without a shop.. not in the real world, and not in the game.

I've made about 2.7 million from my tradeskill without a shop. It's not impossible. Profits would be 50% higher with a shop, but don't NEED it.