We want to save Serenwilde, not destroy it.

No other post has worked.

Take care of yourselves first before trying to 'make friends' with any other Org. Keep on good terms with Celest, but dont waste yourselves on their beliefs. Serenwilde has their own and they dont consist of the City beliefs. Fight if attacked, fight for influences for the power. Take care of yourselves! look to both Moon and Hart.

And no Kalo or Guido alts for Seneschal.

Zenji might have, but I haven’t. There is a difference between me and my character.

I've just been hit by a huge massive storm front knocking out my internet connection every 20 seconds to 2 minutes or so for 95% of the day. I actually managed to stay on lusternia for a whole 65 minutes last night and was overjoyed.. of course it was almost 5am so I was dead tired and hardly anyone was on anyway. (Anyone who was at the mother tree while I was trying to stay connected last night can attest to my connection problems)

Anywho, I haven’t lost interest, I'm just working on something for him for how he's developing as a character, and it just coincided with this horrible storm front which has been HOVERING over my house for the last 5-6 days.

Anyway, I'm not refuting most of what is said in this thread, but.. it just surprises me.. the amount of people who assume things about me, or about the Lisae, or about various things, and they turn out to be completely wrong.

Activity ebbs and flows a lot. Serenwilde was on top a little while ago while Magnagora was sucking it; Magnagora is on top right now while Celest is being raped; there was a time when even Celest had most villages. This is normal; the only organization that hasn't yet succeeded at holding most villages is Glomdoring.

Lies.

Clearly swift, decisive, military action is the answer.

What about trying to make a 'clean slate' type thing. Where the Serenwilde just shuts down into itself and works on NOTHING but Serenwilde stuff. Internal Politics awry? Well, concentrate only on them. Stop thinking about anything and everything other than that.

I don't think you need a One-Word thing to get behind. For instance, I'll use this example since I'm in Glomdoring. When the Wyrd appeared, we didn't suddenly get it together, it was pointed that way from the beginning. There was never Oh, there's the Night followers, there's the Crow followers, and then you have those dudes who can do either or. It was always simply, Members of Glomdoring.

I think that's what Serenwilde needs to do. I always here people talk about all the dissent between Hartstone/Moondancers/Serenguard. I think if you started trying to get people out of that mindset, it'd work a long ways in creating a happier/healthier/stronger Serenwilde.

Also, back to the One-Word thing to define you. I don't think Serenwilde really needs an ideal like that. Because it sucks in Achaea, Good, Evil, Chaos/Freedom, Isolationist, Whatever Hashan is. Why can't 'Serenwilde' define Serenwilde? Why can't the Serenwilde be for the Serenwilde? Instead, what I've seen is the Serenwilde is for Fae, Moon, Hart. Why shouldn't it be the other way around? Why shouldn't Fae/Moon/Hart be for Serenwilde?

I would make a better Seneschal than you merely by not logging in and not doing or saying anything.

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wrt my earlier comments - I know Celenwilde was a little while ago - that was the point I was trying to make - it takes a long time to shift that much inertia - now we need to start building again.

I really like the idea of Serenwilde standing for Serenwilde - it makes me a little nervous that it seems like a radical idea in the current climate

Now to go spread the seren is seren message to other dusties....

I've played this way from the beginning. But it will take a lot of doing to make it stick to the commune as a whole.

I know what you mean, I would think this would be the first idea people would get about serenwilde from reading the histories.

I really do think the key to it is to get the young members interested, and the first step in that process is having a strong and involving novice program. I know that as soon as the Moondancers novice program started to lapse the whole guild started to stagnate.

I'm going to try to do my part in that area but as you may or may not have noticed, I log in a lot from work (government sponsored play time, I love it) which means I'm not as attentive as I otherwise could be.

Number of villages means nothing.

He already mentioned this, but no we didn't. I actually gave him and Alger ridiculous fines at first, but had sense talked into me by a couple people and dropped it by a lot. (I have this nagging feeling that I didn't tell Alger his changed though, have to doublecheck that later. )

People already covered the problems at hand here...I am going to try and work on it, but having a difficult time with it right now for a couple reasons, taking a couple days off to just write up some revisions and stuff since it's harder to concentrate on tonnes of writing when I'm actually in there.

EDIT: Also I'm really tired today because I forgot to set my alarm clock so I slept in until like 3:30 AM.

Because then we'd just be a Glomdoring clone, which is what a lot of us are trying to avoid OOCly.

He was just using the number of villages to show how the activity levels within the various organizations rise and fall.

No, damnit you can do something that makes Serenwilde for JUST Serenwilde and NOT be Glom. JESUS! If you think that, then that's probably the PROBLEM! YOU CAN NOT SEE HOW TO MAKE SERENWILDE CARE ABOUT ITSELF TO WORK OUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ITS MEMEBERS! Sorry...I've got a head ache and it hurts like hell. But that seriously irriated me. If you think that OMG!! If we go "OI! I'm just going to worry about myself" then I'll be like Glom. DEAR GOD, think of something that makes it unique to Seren's RP....If you've got a stick up your ass about the fact if the Wilde worries only about the Wilde it will be like glom then you are an idiot. Use your brain, if that's the only damn option you see you are blind.

Whenever I log onto my Hartstone alt, Serenwilde always seems...flat, dead, bleh. I mean...I should get out of novicehood and then maybe it'll feel a little more lively...but in Glom I always sort of had something to do. Hunt essence, or make food or something. Serenwilde just doesn't give a damn.

Oh and So what...you take an idea from someone else, boo hoo. Do it, if it works it works. If it doesn't, do something else.

Edit: Sorry about the mispellings.

Sorry, but the forest that cares about nothing other than itself has already been done. That is what I really don't want to go for.

However, Glom is all about the Glomdoring forest, about giving up individuality for the forest. That is what I was saying sounded like a bad idea for Seren. Seren, however, could easily be all about the Serenwilde people.

EDIT: Nothing matters but Serenwilde? Sorry, no. That's just lame.

Which it really should be, along with taking care of Serenwilde. Screw the Basin.

I have to agree with Shorlen. I've never liked the 'care only for Serenwilde' mindset, although it works well for Glomdoring.

We do need to focus inwards for a while, and a charismatic and decisive divine and mortal leadership will help. I don't think its enough to say that our whole philosophy should be opportunistic and self-centred, that doesn't make me care more.

At the moment, I just don't see what the point of Serenwilde is. We exist because we don't like any of the other choices.

I'll explain my rather poorly written post tomorrow, since its obvious some people are missing my point. My brain cannot function right now with this evil headache...