Cosmic beings are Normal? Creatures that could be gods but are enternally stuck as not gods are normal?

Who's perpsective are you comming from? Those of the people who worship nature, or from the cities?

Glomdoring could be changed to butterflies and prancing does, fragrant flowers and gentle breezes...

My point is it doesn't matter. In the eyes of Serenwilde, there will be no reason to accept this as anything different than it was before. It appears you think it -will- make some sort of difference. It won't. As I said before, if the people don't want the change, it's not going to change.

Yeah, except, doesn't work that way. Sorry. Any analogy only goes so far.

I mean, I could say the Wyrd is like leprosy. There's just as many similarities, so then can I say that obviously Wyrd is a plague of a destructive disease that needs to be cured before it infects the whole world? No, that's only an opinion based on an analogy. There's no fact there.

Stop being so emo.

There are some core concerns that could be addressed to entirely re-define the Seren/Glomdoring relationship. Elryn has highlighted the most important.

And to be technical, you are incorrect. Serenwilde very much supported Gloriana being reborn via Viravain pre-Kethuru possession... which was all butterflies, flowers, blue birds, etc.

Show me how the Wyrd is not kudzu.

Save for the "creation myth" of Wyrd vs Kudzu its the same. Perhaps the leaf shape is different.

Here are just a few refrences..

kud·zu (kʊd'zū) pronunciation
n.

An eastern Asian vine (Pueraria lobata) having compound leaves and clusters of reddish-purple flowers. It is grown for fodder, forage, and root starch, and is a widespread weed in the southeast United States.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu

http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/kudzu.shtml



Native To: Asia

Date of U.S. Introduction: Late 1800s

Means of Introduction: Introduced for erosion control

Current U.S. Distribution: Southeastern U.S. (Map)


http://www.yahoolavista.com/kudzu/

http://www.alabamatv.org/kudzu/

The Amazing Story of Kudzu
Love It, Or Hate It... It Grows On You!

Kudzu is a vine that when left uncontrolled will eventually grow over almost any fixed object in its proximity including other vegetation. Kudzu, over a period of several years will kill trees by blocking the sunlight. For this and other reasons many would like to find ways to get rid of it. The flowers which bloom in late summer have a very pleasant fragrance and the shapes and forms created by kudzu vines growing over trees and bushes can be pleasing to the eye.

Daganev, it never ceases to amaze me how you can utterly degrade an otherwise decent thread with obscure analogies.

Ah well, since Narsrim's back, I think I'll just take my emo self out of the conversation.

If you'd like to talk, Elryn, PM!

Oh and Narsrim, it never ceases to amaze me how hostile you are to everyone for everything. But thank you for degenerating the thread into insults. We're so happy to have your meaningful opinions and contributions...really.

Kudzu is obscure????

But I guess for some people, they can't make simple connections in thier head by themselves so I'll just spell it out for you.

Kudzu is reddish purple. Wyrd is Mauve, which is a reddish purple.

The taint is said to destroy only. Erosion destroys.

The wyrd came as reaction to the Taint.
Kudzu came as a reaction to erosion.

Wyrd wants to take over the entire basin.
Kudzu grows over everything in its path.

Kudzu grows best in summer.
Wyrd is made by Viravain, who was called the Summer song.

Wyrden swamp, road, underground, water, urban is as if it had trees
Kudzu grows over swamps, roads, underground, can cover up lakes, grow over houses, and looks like a tree.

Need I go on? Or are you able to read the same pages without further assistance?

Over reacting again?

I honestly feel Shayle, and I say this with no malice or venom, that a certain handful of people in Glomdoring want the organization to be "hated." It plays to these persons advantage to ensure this because it makes their self worth in Glomdoring absolute versus and organization that has at least some tranquility to it.

As a prime example, you still maintain even on an OOC level that the Wyrd is not tainted. I think anyone who is trying to be relatively objective would conclude that such a statement cannot be concluded (Lisaera even went so far as to post this in the past as the intent). There is evidence in-game to support that the Wyrd is tainted; there is evidence to suggest it is not. Thus, it becomes a matter of opinion.

The suggestions Elryn have made would act to take away this grey area. While there always will be delusional individuals who outright reject reality, most of Serenwilde and most of the players in Lusternia are not like this. I would argue most people don't want to roleplay having innate dementia.

What are you smoking? Can I have some?

No you can't! Yrael is gonna steal it all and then I am gonna buy a couple of cartons of beer and we are gonna have a party.

That was a fairly reasonable post, given that the only reason the wyrd exists is so that Glomdoring wouldn't look entirely ridiculous arguing it's not Tainted to begin with since you could (NOT must) conclude the wyrd isn't tainted anymore.

Why do you all want the grey area to go away?

I don't! I like gray/grey ... light gray, dark gray, charcoal gray, medium gray, blue-gray, greenish-gray, browny-gray, etc.


In other news, in 18 minutes it'll've been 25 years since I was born (ignoring inaccuracies in time-keeping). And I still haven't decided whether to make a cake or to make cupcakes. Cupcakes are good, small/cute, more easily stored/eaten, etc., but a cake is a cake.

Cupcakes cannot properly have their insides scooped out and replaced with ice cream. Cake for the win. There are also bonus points to be had if the cake resembles something through shape, or by painting through frosting.

Glomdoring and Serenwilde need to be in conflict.

Whether they're at odds in philosophies or the difference in political policies and interests, Glomdoring and Serenwilde need to be fundamentally and fervently in conflict. Just imagine the Basin if the two communes were less bickering bitterly towards each other. Magnagora and New Celest would be shifting their feet. Fewer things to argue would lead inevitably to the path of building stronger ties between the two communes. That would shift the balance of power in the Basin towards the forestals. Might as well then ask the Taint City to be less Tainted or the City of Light to be less of the Light so as a stronger relationship between the cities can be fostered, in order to return world balance. (I wonder if both cities would like the possibility. )

From an OOC stand point looking at the possible rp value, I am against anything that would have even the possibility of Glomdoring and Serenwilde be closer in any permanent way. If Serenwilde wants a buddy commune, then they can wait for Akleberry to be found in the future. (hopefully near future ) And Glomdoring may say the same. (Am interested what would a third commune take on the *sigh* seemingly endless, and disconnected, talk of wyrd being tainted or not *headache*)

PS. Azman OOC views may differ with Azman IC. Its fun running around with 2 personalities! Weeeee!

I agree.

However, we need to face facts. Ambiguity is not contradiction. Let's address that.

I'd be cool with that, if it made any sense to ally with the cities. 3-way conflict ftl.

When I was 3 (or 4, I forget) my next-door neighbour somehow managed to make me this cake that resembled some kind of dinosaur, and it was standing up. It was one of the long-necked ones too. No idea how that worked.

Man, that was awesome.

Whale shaped carvel ice cream cakes for the winning prize.