Unknown2006-07-21 22:57:04
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Jul 21 2006, 10:07 PM) 310238
Thul,
Luciphage, Raziela, and Elohora, and the White Hart can aeon. It isn't exactly an "avatar" only ability. If you want to be real technical, I believe Raziela gives:
paralyse, blackout, aeon in a SINGLE attack.
Still, it's way too good for an aspect. Worst a Tidal Lord can do is... knockdown.
Unknown2006-07-21 23:38:25
That's just a subliminal message that the White Hart kicks everyone else's arse, and not to screw with Him.
Tsuki2006-07-22 00:09:05
Being at the summit, I've been logging it. When it's done I'll post a transcript (if no one turns into a superninja and beats me to it).
And of course, just as I post that I get disconnected so I missed a bit.
And of course, just as I post that I get disconnected so I missed a bit.
Unknown2006-07-22 00:09:06
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Jul 21 2006, 12:57 PM) 310254
Still, it's way too good for an aspect. Worst a Tidal Lord can do is... knockdown.
They also freeze and knock off balance.
Shorlen2006-07-22 00:13:53
QUOTE(Admins who don't care about our opinon)
The Norns, Administrators of Fate say in unison, "Keep in mind we are moving
away from conflict quests. So asking for quests to create such will not be
looked at as a suggestion."
The Furies say in unison, "There probably won't be any more 'winning' over of
maeve."
away from conflict quests. So asking for quests to create such will not be
looked at as a suggestion."
The Furies say in unison, "There probably won't be any more 'winning' over of
maeve."
Unknown2006-07-22 00:28:10
whoa, slow down, the summit isn't even over and everyone's up in arms at what they -know- is going to be changed to screw them over in some way.
Shorlen2006-07-22 00:49:27
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Jul 21 2006, 08:28 PM) 310289
whoa, slow down, the summit isn't even over and everyone's up in arms at what they -know- is going to be changed to screw them over in some way.
We are being told our opinion doesn't matter, so wtf is the point?
Here, allow me to summarize the summit with a quote from Bash.org:
#240849 +(6514)-
Unknown2006-07-22 00:51:56
QUOTE
The Norns, Administrators of Fate say in unison, "Keep in mind we are moving
away from conflict quests. So asking for quests to create such will not be
looked at as a suggestion."
The Furies say in unison, "There probably won't be any more 'winning' over of
maeve."
away from conflict quests. So asking for quests to create such will not be
looked at as a suggestion."
The Furies say in unison, "There probably won't be any more 'winning' over of
maeve."
I'm officially disgusted.
"Well, we have this summit to gather your opinions.. but, your opinions have to be in line with what we think your opinions already are. If we are wrong about your opinions, then too bad, we won't open our eyes to reality."
Daganev2006-07-22 00:53:38
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Jul 21 2006, 05:49 PM) 310295
We are being told our opinion doesn't matter, so wtf is the point?
Here, allow me to summarize the summit with a quote from Bash.org:
#240849 +(6514)-
Your nuts...
QUOTE(Fallen @ Jul 21 2006, 05:51 PM) 310298
I'm officially disgusted.
"Well, we have this summit to gather your opinions.. but, your opinions have to be in line with what we think your opinions already are. If we are wrong about your opinions, then too bad, we won't open our eyes to reality."
Your nuts also....
Conflict quests were a new idea, they don't think they went very well with the other plans they have, so they are keeping the qeusts, and removing the "grief" they cause. That has nothing to do with asking us about how we can make the quests more fun and interesting so that the result of them is less important.
Unknown2006-07-22 00:55:13
QUOTE(daganev @ Jul 21 2006, 05:53 PM) 310300
Your nuts also....
Conflict quests were a new idea, they don't think they went very well with the other plans they have, so they are keeping the qeusts, and removing the "grief" they cause. That has nothing to do with asking us about how we can make the quests more fun and interesting so that the result of them is less important.
But people like conflict quests, they just don't like certain aspects of the methods to achieve the current ones. The Admin got the idea we don't like them. They were wrong. They refuse to acknowledge that they got the wrong idea.
How are we nuts?
Diamondais2006-07-22 00:58:20
My school board does this exact thing, they hold meetings for the studants to join and give our opinions and then tell us our opinions have no meaning because were not on the board or we should have been at the meeting the YEAR before we even came to the school so the people who could have made the difference didnt really have to deal with the consequences.
The entire studant body walked out, we didnt achieve anything. Exact same bloody thing only a different bloody topic.
The entire studant body walked out, we didnt achieve anything. Exact same bloody thing only a different bloody topic.
Shorlen2006-07-22 01:05:21
I also love how the admins aren't talking to us in person, but hiding behing aliases so we won't be annoyed at specific people for ruining the game we loved.
Hazar2006-07-22 01:06:42
I actually thought that was pretty smart.
But the Oneiroi and the Furies need descriptions.
But the Oneiroi and the Furies need descriptions.
Tsuki2006-07-22 01:21:45
As I'm being disconnected repeatedly now (stupid storm systems coming in), I'm going to start posting what I have so far, so that others can see what's missing and post it at some point so I can edit in additions to make it complete, and if I get completely cut off, someone else can take over from where I end.
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Edit: Removed part of the log I'd gotten up so far, as per suggestion. Think the full logs should have been added here, rather than in a new thread in General, though.
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Edit: Removed part of the log I'd gotten up so far, as per suggestion. Think the full logs should have been added here, rather than in a new thread in General, though.
Unknown2006-07-22 01:34:47
I'd just post a log from my point of view since you were disconnected a lot, Tsuki, but I'd have to edit out some clan chatter.
I'd just let someone else post though, Tsuki, since you missed a lot from what I could tell.
I'd just let someone else post though, Tsuki, since you missed a lot from what I could tell.
Shiri2006-07-22 01:36:31
It already got posted in the General section by Xikue. (I think, I closed the thread since I'm reading the files.)
Tsuki2006-07-22 07:05:19
My compulsive librarianishness compels me to create a cross-reference here to the logs as they were posted elsewhere.
Unknown2006-07-23 05:06:18
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Jul 21 2006, 09:05 PM) 310305
I also love how the admins aren't talking to us in person, but hiding behing aliases so we won't be annoyed at specific people for ruining the game we loved.
Just that they didn't want it to be like this:
Viravain says, "Oh, we should nerf the ladies because of X Y and Z."
Seren-noob says, "You are just saying that because you're Glom's goddess!"
Seren-noob wails like an old woman.
Terentia2006-07-23 05:41:55
Zenji's entirely correct.
The personas of Viravain, Fain, Terentia, Estarra (Though, to a notably less extent), etc, are IC Gods and Goddesses. While you understand the meeting is OOC, can you truly say with certainty that you wouldn't bias something said based on who said it?
This is the same reason an Administrator such as the Norns will deal with an Issue, and the Charities will deal with designs and so forth.
We have a rather tough job. We do it because we care and want to make things go smoothly.
While frustration is in no means a bad thing, calling us out as if we're trying to 'hide' because we're 'ruining the game', is rather rude.
Good night.
The personas of Viravain, Fain, Terentia, Estarra (Though, to a notably less extent), etc, are IC Gods and Goddesses. While you understand the meeting is OOC, can you truly say with certainty that you wouldn't bias something said based on who said it?
This is the same reason an Administrator such as the Norns will deal with an Issue, and the Charities will deal with designs and so forth.
We have a rather tough job. We do it because we care and want to make things go smoothly.
While frustration is in no means a bad thing, calling us out as if we're trying to 'hide' because we're 'ruining the game', is rather rude.
Good night.
Daganev2006-07-23 05:47:06
I'm just saying your nuts if you think the admin are trying to pull a fast one over the players by "pretending" to listen.