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Veonira2006-08-07 00:27:56
I think I've found a possible problem. If I read the announce correctly, only illusions cast on others should have a longer eq time, however I've discovered while using them on myself that the time has increased significantly. Am I just going crazy and thinking it's longer, or was it actually changed to be longer even when cast on yourself, or is it a bug? I've bugged it in game just in case.
Genos2006-08-07 00:29:37
Does it still make two reflections of other people when you cast it on them?
Ildaudid2006-08-07 00:30:58
QUOTE(Veonira @ Aug 6 2006, 08:27 PM) 316137

I think I've found a possible problem. If I read the announce correctly, only illusions cast on others should have a longer eq time, however I've discovered while using them on myself that the time has increased significantly. Am I just going crazy and thinking it's longer, or was it actually changed to be longer even when cast on yourself, or is it a bug? I've bugged it in game just in case.


Think it is only reflections in illusions

-Reflections in illusions when cast on another will have an increased
equilibrium time.

So illusions haven't in general been given longer eq time... just the reflections... so it is harder to reflect for someone while bashing lets say a Manifestation.
Veonira2006-08-07 00:33:43
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Aug 6 2006, 08:30 PM) 316142

Think it is only reflections in illusions

-Reflections in illusions when cast on another will have an increased
equilibrium time.


Yeah...but I'm casting it on myself. The announce says on another.

QUOTE

You weave a glamour and mold it until it becomes a reflection of yourself.
3341h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
One of your reflections has been destroyed! You have 0 left.
Shihami Aerlon rages, seeing her attack fall on your reflection.
3341h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
(Bellator Societas): Tuek says, "I'm pretty sure barge doesn't use balance when
it fails, and that's been bugged since opening."
3341h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
You say, "Presidio."
3341h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3341h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
3283h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk BLEEDING
Shihami Aerlon glides foward as if to give you a kiss, slipping her arms around
your neck. While you are distracted, she sinks sharp teeth deep into your neck,
drawing blood.
3420h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qsSixk
##### EQUILIBRIUM RECOVERED #####
3420h, 4170m, 3740e, 10p qesSixk
You weave a glamour and mold it until it becomes a reflection of yourself.


This makes it, well, absolutely useless. (This would be more effective with time stamps, but I don't have the ability to do that. But normally I would easily be able to reflect myself again before they could get in another attack.)
Ixion2006-08-07 01:04:08
The maneuver change is, after first look, interesting to say the least. I've done a fair amount of in and out of combat testing at this point, so I'll post a few comments.

-Goodness it is spammy for one handers. Yay for the gag reflex.
-The drawback on maneuvers is not negligable.
-I only see one scenario where it makes something too strong, but as there is only one BC I would consider skilled, I doubt we'll see it happen. To address Narsrim's post about pinleg, it isn't OP. It is good yes but there is a surefire way to prevent pinleg locking. Those who believe pinleg with this change is too good I can most assuredly assume that they don't know enough about the skill as to how to prevent being locked by it.
-Am rather annoyed that collapsed lung is broken, when it finally became at the very least feasible in BM combat.
-Still annoyed that lunges can, and rather often do, miss.
-All in all it looks pretty neat, and will be fun to play, assuming the horrendous server lag gets fixed.
-Best part about the change as I see it at this point in time: makes higher wound afflictions more viable.
-Worst part thus far as I see it: Can actually be a detriment in some situations.
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The new druid skill... just ........ wow is it nice. I personally think it's too strong in its current form. One druid + anyone who can web = pretty much screwed opponent. In and outside of demesne, it's amazing.
Estarra2006-08-07 01:14:37
QUOTE(Veonira @ Aug 6 2006, 05:27 PM) 316137

I think I've found a possible problem. If I read the announce correctly, only illusions cast on others should have a longer eq time, however I've discovered while using them on myself that the time has increased significantly. Am I just going crazy and thinking it's longer, or was it actually changed to be longer even when cast on yourself, or is it a bug? I've bugged it in game just in case.


Fixed!
Ashteru2006-08-07 01:18:53
QUOTE(Estarra @ Aug 7 2006, 01:14 AM) 316151

Fixed!

Thank you. happy.gif
Reiha2006-08-07 02:07:14
QUOTE(Estarra @ Aug 6 2006, 04:14 PM) 316151

Fixed!

Yes, thanks ya! divlove.gif
Unknown2006-08-07 02:09:18
I don't suppose either the Hartstone or Serenguard Envoy could get a command so that the user of GORE can do something to un-impale their target? Cause.. currently, if you stick someone with Impale, they can just sit there and you're stuck. At least as far as I know. Unless something was changed silently?
Narsrim2006-08-07 02:28:46
QUOTE(confused)

With a focused look, Soll strikes at you with a shimmering rapier of watery
steel. Soll strikes into your gut, which opens up and pours blood in a pool at
your feet.
You blink for a moment, then instantly, all about you is darkness.
3386h, 4341m, 6026e, 10p, 26788w ekbp<>-

The idea of eating or drinking is repulsive to you.
3386h, 4341m, 6026e, 10p, 26788w ekbp<>-
You exert superior mental control and your wounds clot before your eyes.
3386h, 4287m, 6026e, 10p, 26776w ekbp<>-
You exert superior mental control and your wounds clot before your eyes.
3386h, 4233m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w ekbp<>-
You remove 1 kombu, bringing the total in the Rift to 1695.
3386h, 4233m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w ekbp<>-
You eat kombu seaweed.
3386h, 4233m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w ekbp<>-

You have recovered balance on all limbs.
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
3853h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-

Soll gives his weapon a vicious twist and withdraws it from your body in a
shower of blood.
3853h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-

Soll gives his weapon a vicious twist and withdraws it from your body in a
shower of blood.
3853h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-

Soll gives his weapon a vicious twist and withdraws it from your body in a
shower of blood.
3853h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-

With an heroic effort you manage to writhe yourself free from that which impaled
you.
3853h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-

Dark blue clouds drift in from the north. Lightning crackles above and the
clouds release an onslaught of cold, icy hail stones that are the size of your
fist, which pound into your body.
2893h, 4814m, 6026e, 10p, 26764w exkbp<>-


Someone explain how I was rended three times in a row.

EDIT:

And wtf is up with me writhing the blade after I was rended 3 times? Shouldn't that have caused them to be withdrawn?
Xenthos2006-08-07 02:37:14
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Aug 6 2006, 10:28 PM) 316161

Someone explain how I was rended three times in a row.

EDIT:

And wtf is up with me writhing the blade after I was rended 3 times? Shouldn't that have caused them to be withdrawn?

See his gut attack right before that? It looks like he only had one weapon stuck in you, rended three times for some reason, and then you writhed. The rend wasn't removing the weapon, meaning that someone could just spam-rend at the moment and give 50,000 bleeding at once.

Which would be... a bug. BUG it!
Soll2006-08-07 02:40:27
Hax. Nerf. sad.gif
Veonira2006-08-07 02:45:24
QUOTE(Estarra @ Aug 6 2006, 09:14 PM) 316151

Fixed!


wub.gif
Daganev2006-08-07 03:34:08
Correct me if I am wrong, but you can't get a high damage/ High speed weapon... they don't exist.
Sylphas2006-08-07 04:33:33
QUOTE(daganev @ Aug 6 2006, 11:34 PM) 316189
Correct me if I am wrong, but you can't get a high damage/ High speed weapon... they don't exist.


You probably can't get huge damage huge speed weapons, but if you're willing to sacrifice precision, it shouldn't be hard to get high damage weapons near the speed cap for the weapon type, and the same with high speed weapons with damage as high as possible.
Daganev2006-08-07 04:49:59
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 6 2006, 09:33 PM) 316225

You probably can't get huge damage huge speed weapons, but if you're willing to sacrifice precision, it shouldn't be hard to get high damage weapons near the speed cap for the weapon type, and the same with high speed weapons with damage as high as possible.



With damage weapons, people allready do that... thats the point of Damage weapons.

As for rapier and hammers, I think the max damage is about 100.
Sylphas2006-08-07 05:11:31
Yes, and now damage weapons don't have quite the drawback, since maneuvers will make up at least a bit of the precision loss.
Daganev2006-08-07 05:18:19
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 6 2006, 10:11 PM) 316242

Yes, and now damage weapons don't have quite the drawback, since maneuvers will make up at least a bit of the precision loss.


Damage weapons allready have quite a drawback since they don't do damage tongue.gif
Unknown2006-08-07 10:16:59
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 7 2006, 07:11 AM) 316242

Yes, and now damage weapons don't have quite the drawback, since maneuvers will make up at least a bit of the precision loss.


If you think that, you don't quite understand how maneuvers work. They still require wounding levels - so nothing changes precision-wise, and the warrior affliction rate was still dependant on DEXTERITY, not precision - so once again, nothing changes precision-wise.
Niente2006-08-07 10:46:17
As far as I can see, Cuber is right. The maneuver ability does not significantly improve Ixion's ability to pinleg, it just means that he won't get other afflictions on pre-pinleg strikes. I can see this creating havoc for those unfortunate souls who use wound afflictions to track wounding.