Unknown2006-08-11 21:09:19
QUOTE(AlyssandraAbSidhe @ Aug 11 2006, 01:32 PM) 318250
it forms 3,3,6,6,9,9-hexamethyl-1,2,4,5,7,8-hexaoxacyclononane (a trimer of Peroxyacetone) its pretty much one of the most explosive liquids under normal conditions, more susceptible to friction and jolts than even Nitro Glycerine. I can't see why they would need a detonator though.
God I love this woman
Unknown2006-08-11 22:20:56
QUOTE(AlyssandraAbSidhe @ Aug 11 2006, 01:32 PM) 318250
it forms 3,3,6,6,9,9-hexamethyl-1,2,4,5,7,8-hexaoxacyclononane (a trimer of Peroxyacetone) its pretty much one of the most explosive liquids under normal conditions, more susceptible to friction and jolts than even Nitro Glycerine. I can't see why they would need a detonator though.
I dunno. I had just been watching in on Primetime last night, and they were going into enough detail about it. They'd pull the plastic lense out of the flash, so that when it flashed, it would just be a spark to ignite the stuff once it was mixed.
Shakaya2006-08-12 01:14:51
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Aug 12 2006, 07:09 AM) 318260
God I love this woman
Man.
Nementh2006-08-12 01:55:01
QUOTE(AlyssandraAbSidhe @ Aug 11 2006, 01:19 PM) 318151
I severely doubt they were trying to carry NitroGlycerin on in its prepared form, as one accidental drop and it goes bye bye, and that wouldn't be prevented by letting people store it in the hold. However if they people were trying to carry on Nitric Acid and Propanetriol (Glycerol) and mix it on board, then you would get the effect, and stopping people having access to the materials would prevent the bomb from being made in the first place.
And thats even if it was Nitroglycerine that was the chemical, because there would be other much more suitable, much easier to handle checmicals that could do a similar trick. Remember planes just need a small break in the fusilage and you get explosive decompression.
It has been proven that explosive decompression in planes don't happen. That is a movie myth. A small hole will be made a little larger, but nothing like an explosive decompression. (MythBusters did one on this for mroe accessable knowledge, but the FAA has many reports published to this end as well.)
Minerva2006-08-12 03:53:12
I dont ever want to travel on planes frankly it scares the -censored- out of me.
Sylphas2006-08-12 05:05:26
So is anyone else tempted to go blow giant holes in their yard? Or is that just me? Not that I will, because I'm not stupid enough to screw with something that will take limbs off me if I jostle it, but the temptation is there.
Jahan2006-08-12 05:07:31
The fact that this got the air time it did brings suspect to both of the motives of the governments evolved and the eptitude of global media.
Whether the terrorists succeeded in actually killing people or not is irrelevant at this point. Their mission, as always, was to create hysteria and suspicion in the western world and this is exactly what happened. Incidently this is the same strategy employed by certain Western governments to control their citizens and make it appear as if this expensive and relatively unyielding boogey war on terror has one iota of credibility left.
Personally, I always take these things skeptically and will not be surprised if in the future it is uncovered that many of these arrests and alerts are mere propoganda. If MI:5 actually saved lives here, kudos to them, but if they just did this as another measure of fear control then they can go FCK themselves as usual.
Whether the terrorists succeeded in actually killing people or not is irrelevant at this point. Their mission, as always, was to create hysteria and suspicion in the western world and this is exactly what happened. Incidently this is the same strategy employed by certain Western governments to control their citizens and make it appear as if this expensive and relatively unyielding boogey war on terror has one iota of credibility left.
Personally, I always take these things skeptically and will not be surprised if in the future it is uncovered that many of these arrests and alerts are mere propoganda. If MI:5 actually saved lives here, kudos to them, but if they just did this as another measure of fear control then they can go FCK themselves as usual.
Unknown2006-08-12 05:11:03
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 11 2006, 10:05 PM) 318405
So is anyone else tempted to go blow giant holes in their yard? Or is that just me? Not that I will, because I'm not stupid enough to screw with something that will take limbs off me if I jostle it, but the temptation is there.
Not to mention if you did succeed, you'd probably be arrested in under a few hours and your entire family and all of your friends would be investigated as well
Minerva2006-08-12 05:14:07
Ha I wonder if you could play Lusternia in jail.
Unknown2006-08-12 07:18:27
QUOTE(Jahan @ Aug 12 2006, 06:07 AM) 318406
The fact that this got the air time it did brings suspect to both of the motives of the governments evolved and the eptitude of global media.
Whether the terrorists succeeded in actually killing people or not is irrelevant at this point. Their mission, as always, was to create hysteria and suspicion in the western world and this is exactly what happened. Incidently this is the same strategy employed by certain Western governments to control their citizens and make it appear as if this expensive and relatively unyielding boogey war on terror has one iota of credibility left.
Personally, I always take these things skeptically and will not be surprised if in the future it is uncovered that many of these arrests and alerts are mere propoganda. If MI:5 actually saved lives here, kudos to them, but if they just did this as another measure of fear control then they can go FCK themselves as usual.
It is MI5, Military Intelligence Section Five, not MI:5, Mission Impossible 5.
Daganev2006-08-13 06:14:57
QUOTE(Jahan @ Aug 11 2006, 10:07 PM) 318406
Whether the terrorists succeeded in actually killing people or not is irrelevant at this point. Their mission, as always, was to create hysteria and suspicion in the western world and this is exactly what happened.
I don't think that has EVER been the mission of a terroist organization, save in the movies.
Terriorism is about little guys, controlling big guys through the harming of the people the big guys supposedly protect.
Just to use a mundane movie example. Can't kill Superman? Well then, threaten to kill Lois Lane.
Unknown2006-08-13 06:27:18
Banning all liquids... god they're retarded. I mean, Jesus Christ. I'm surprising the terrorists haven't killed every single one of us yet, they'd have an easy enough time of it.
I hope one of them tries to sneak a bomb on by shoving it up his ass. That will make the airport really interesting.
I hope one of them tries to sneak a bomb on by shoving it up his ass. That will make the airport really interesting.
Daganev2006-08-13 07:03:29
As I said to my co-worker, You can only bring on liquids if its in your shoe.
Also, don't wear gel shoes to the airport
Also, don't wear gel shoes to the airport
Sylphas2006-08-13 07:13:25
I'm waiting for another person to rig up a truck bomb and get caught, so they make a new law where we can't have liquids in your vehicle.