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Estarra2006-09-04 17:22:02
Really, you shouldn't notice *that* much of a difference. There is a bit of luck involved now so you may experience an occasional longer period of time against a mob than others (rather than have them keep a mob pacified like clockwork). Also, groups of nymphs won't be any more effective than one nymph.

Regarding wiccan fae, get your envoys to suggest upgrades to them! We're doing mini reports as often as we can, and a few fae upgrades seem reasonable to me.
Laysus2006-09-04 19:56:44
I did a test with a rockeater, newbiekicking it to death, Nymph fired a total of 14 times averaging 21.86 seconds apart.

While I accept that the randomisation was necessary - it was too easy to kill things by waiting 12 seconds between attacks - would it be possible to have an upper limit on the pacification time of say 25 seconds and average of 15. The greatest value I found between pacifications was 38 seconds, lowest was 9, most common was 19.

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Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2638h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72674977 || 20:11:14


Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2842h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exkp-72694185 || 20:11:34 (20 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2842h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72703619 || 20:11:43 (9 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2653h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p exk-72722816 || 20:12:02 (19 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
2683h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72741974 || 20:12:21 (19 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2660h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p exk-72770865 || 20:12:50 (29 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2659h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72780159 || 20:13:00 (10 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2614h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p exk-72809070 || 20:13:29 (29 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2842h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p exk-72837501 || 20:13:57 (28 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2842h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p exk-72856629 || 20:14:16 (19 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2842h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72885270 || 20:14:45 (29 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2653h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p exk-72923535 || 20:15:23 (38 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2611h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p ek-72942602 || 20:15:42 (19 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
2658h, 4258m, 4564e, 10p ek-72961700 || 20:16:01 (19 seconds)

Wagging her finger in censure, a wood nymph whispers quietly to a mountain
PACIFIED!
rockeater, whose eyes glow green and then nods meekly.
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
2648h, 4318m, 4564e, 10p ek-72980947 || 20:16:20 (19 seconds)
Abethor2006-09-05 01:04:19
Yeah. I have found, while hunting gorgogs, that at times the nymph will seem to pacify like it used to, at regular intervals, but at other times I have to endure more than four attacks before the nymph pacifies again. Perhaps more regular intervals would be better, instead of randomized. It can still take a longer time to pacify, but people using nymphs would be able to plan strategy better at regular intervals.
Shorlen2006-09-05 01:05:16
QUOTE(Abethor @ Sep 4 2006, 09:04 PM) 327848
Yeah. I have found, while hunting gorgogs, that at times the nymph will seem to pacify like it used to, at regular intervals, but at other times I have to endure more than four attacks before the nymph pacifies again. Perhaps more regular intervals would be better, instead of randomized. It can still take a longer time to pacify, but people using nymphs would be able to plan strategy better at regular intervals.

I think that was the point of the massive nerf.
Shamarah2006-09-05 01:17:33
HORRAY MY ANGEL IS NO LONGER USELESS AGAINST A MOONDANCER

Seriously, before the change, the angel would get pacified BEFORE IT HIT half the time.
Shiri2006-09-05 01:33:23
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 5 2006, 02:17 AM) 327856

HORRAY MY ANGEL IS NO LONGER USELESS AGAINST A MOONDANCER

Seriously, before the change, the angel would get pacified BEFORE IT HIT half the time.


And then you would immediately (or within about 4 seconds) order it to attack again so you essentially didn't miss anything at all...right? huh.gif
Shamarah2006-09-05 01:35:52
QUOTE(Shiri @ Sep 4 2006, 09:33 PM) 327870

And then you would immediately (or within about 4 seconds) order it to attack again so you essentially didn't miss anything at all...right? huh.gif


Wrong!

When the angel is pacified, the attack timer is reset. And if I've just used an attack when the angel is pacified, and I have to then wait for eq back to have it attack again, it's possible for it to be pacified again before it even gets a hit in! It's happened to me before and it's highly annoying. Even if this doesn't happen, it makes the angel much weaker against wiccans because it creates an artifical delay in the angel's attack pattern, giving them more time to heal its attacks.
Unknown2006-09-05 01:36:51
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 5 2006, 01:35 AM) 327873

Even if this doesn't happen, it makes the angel much weaker against wiccans because it creates an artifical delay in the angel's attack pattern, giving them more time to heal its attacks.

Isn't that the point of nymph?
Diamondais2006-09-05 01:37:38
Edit: Nope, ignore me. Swore it was something else.
Shamarah2006-09-05 01:38:21
QUOTE(Avaer @ Sep 4 2006, 09:36 PM) 327874

Isn't that the point of nymph?


Probably. I dislike its point, though!
Daganev2006-09-05 01:56:44
I thought the point of Nymph was a means to help Wiccans who naturally don't have very good resistances while bashing...
Shamarah2006-09-05 02:01:06
QUOTE(daganev @ Sep 4 2006, 09:56 PM) 327889

I thought the point of Nymph was a means to help Wiccans who naturally don't have very good resistances while bashing...


Hi there, my name is Drawdown.
Shorlen2006-09-05 02:03:48
Ooh, let me try!

Love potions stop my offense for 4 seconds every 20 seconds, and are available to everyone. If I reject and the attack should have gone through already, the timer gets reset and I have to wait another 10 seconds. Therefore, they are overpowered and must be nerfed.

I like this game smile.gif

EDIT: Yes, I know that is the point of love potions, but I dislike that point. halo.gif
Shamarah2006-09-05 02:05:41
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 4 2006, 10:03 PM) 327891

Ooh, let me try!

Love potions stop my offense for 4 seconds every 20 seconds, and are available to everyone. If I reject and the attack should have gone through already, the timer gets reset and I have to wait another 10 seconds. Therefore, they are overpowered and must be nerfed.

I like this game smile.gif

EDIT: Yes, I know that is the point of love potions, but I dislike that point. halo.gif


You should know by now that I'm really not all that serious with most of my whining. Nymphs aren't actually all that bad, especially if you just kill them first. tongue.gif (Though it is very annoying on those times when they chain-pacify the angel.)
Daganev2006-09-05 02:12:44
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 4 2006, 07:01 PM) 327890

Hi there, my name is Drawdown.


It appears the recent change was to make up for some factors that were previously overlooked. If the purpose of Nymph was mainly to be against Guardian ents(since those were the only ones that really existed) than you would think this aspect of nymph would not be overlooked.