Aggressive Supernals/DemonLords/Avatars

by Narsrim

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Narsrim2006-08-18 03:31:50
Supernals, Demon Lords, and Avatars should be aggressive towards enemies of Celestia, Nil, Moon Spirit, and Night Spirit. I find it odd that the angels/demons/champions ARE aggressive yet the masters aren't. I also think this would provide some home turf advantage on cosmic/ethereal against raids. I find it strange a group can gather at Raziela, for example, to launch an attack and she just sits there as known enemies to Celestia pick off angels around her.
Xenthos2006-08-18 03:33:33
When did angels/demons become aggressive? And... Kalodan got deadified when he attacked an angel in front of Raziela.
Narsrim2006-08-18 03:34:24
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Aug 17 2006, 11:33 PM) 321013

When did angels/demons become aggressive?


They will shriek and periodically attack enemies of Celestia/Nil.
Xenthos2006-08-18 03:35:55
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Aug 17 2006, 11:34 PM) 321014

They will shriek and periodically attack enemies of Celestia/Nil.

Would this happen to be when... someone greets or otherwise interacts with them? I know the Night Avatars will 'periodically' kill enemies of Night who do something so silly as try to give them a Fae. happy.gif
Narsrim2006-08-18 03:36:24
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Aug 17 2006, 11:33 PM) 321013

When did angels/demons become aggressive? And... Kalodan got deadified when he attacked an angel in front of Raziela.


Specifically, you can kill angels all over Celestia and then pop in to Raziela's room, hide behind her barrier, and she will wait for you to attack her. I think, as I said, Supernals/DemonLords/Avatars should be aggressive to enemies.

Unknown2006-08-18 03:47:33
Angels don't even attack me if I greet them, and I'm enemied.
Athalas2006-08-18 04:01:06
They are find you so drop dead seksay they don't attack? Reasonable explanation to me! They must have a thing for wings.
Athana2006-08-18 04:09:55
They've already been buffed -again- so I don't think it's a huge deal but you're right it is kind of odd that they don't attack
Unknown2006-08-18 04:49:58
It is wierd. If you're an enemy of their spirit or home or whatever, and they're basically the cheif guardian of that, then they should be laying the smackdown on you if they see you.
Acrune2006-08-18 05:45:58
Maybe they forget? tongue.gif

"Oh yeah, wasn't it you guys that killed me last time?" *dies again*
Shorlen2006-08-18 05:53:38
Angels and demons should be aggressive - Ladies/Daughters are, last time I checked.

Oh, and something I just noticed, looking through logs:

QUOTE
The end of your cudgel forms a knotty burl and you point it at a celestial
archangel. The burl pops and ruptures, shooting a barrage of splinters into her
- You attacked a celestial archangel with point cudgel -
flesh.
You have scored a CRITICAL hit!
The final blow proves too much for a celestial archangel, who expires,
pitifully.
You have slain a celestial archangel.
Many golden sovereigns spill from the corpse.


Making a slashing motion toward a celestial archangel with your sickle, you
curse her for her transgressions against you. Stigmatic lesions suddenly appear
all over her body, dripping with blood.
You have scored a CRITICAL hit!
The stigmatic wounds that slash over a celestial archangel's body gape open one
final time, spitting forth her life's blood. She has died to the curse of the
sickle.
You have slain a celestial archangel.
Many golden sovereigns spill from the corpse.


Making a slashing motion toward a celestial archangel with your sickle, you
curse her for her transgressions against you. Stigmatic lesions suddenly appear
all over her body, dripping with blood.
The stigmatic wounds that slash over a celestial archangel's body gape open one
final time, spitting forth her life's blood. She has died to the curse of the
sickle.
You have slain a celestial archangel.


You are an enemy of: Glomdoring, Celest, Paladins, Aquamancers, Celestines,
Terentia, Nightspirit, Shadowdancers, Blacktalon, Licorice, Kyrian.


I'm rather certain those were Celestia spawns summoned by a Supernal. Is that normal?
Shamarah2006-08-18 12:14:22
Supernal/DL spawns are not loyal.

Angels and demons, at the very least, should be aggressive towards enemies.
Sylphas2006-08-18 14:56:36
You should also be enemied if you struck a Supernal, even if you didn't get the killing blow. I helped kill Raziela and I'm not enemied to Celestia.
Unknown2006-08-18 15:04:42
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 18 2006, 10:56 PM) 321222

You should also be enemied if you struck a Supernal, even if you didn't get the killing blow. I helped kill Raziela and I'm not enemied to Celestia.


Aye, you should be enemied just being there. And also to prevent anyone from entering Elohora's/Luciphage's area.
Unknown2006-08-18 15:10:23
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 18 2006, 10:56 AM) 321222

You should also be enemied if you struck a Supernal, even if you didn't get the killing blow. I helped kill Raziela and I'm not enemied to Celestia.
Yes, that is the most important thing that could be changed in my mind, if a Supernal/Avatar dies, then there should be a peusdo avenger system that checks everyone who attacked that being in the last 10 minutes and enemies them all. (sounds like it would take a decent amount of coding to work out though ermm.gif ) At the moment I'm pretty sure it only enemies the one with the killing blow. So, out of those first eleven celestines killing luna, only forren would have gained status, and ten off scott free.

QUOTE(Lightzout @ Aug 18 2006, 11:04 AM) 321223

Aye, you should be enemied just being there. And also to prevent anyone from entering Elohora's/Luciphage's area.

Just being there it so broad, defenders can 'just be there' and there are skills that make people follow you (newbie skills for cities, trans for communes) so enemying the group of the one who killed it wouldn't work either. It would have to be something along the lines I suggested, which I could see turning into a long complicated project taking up more valuble coding time. sad.gif I think it would be worth it in the end though. cheer.gif
Sylphas2006-08-18 15:33:42
It shouldn't be TOO hard, since they have the framework for Avenger, they'd just need it so you can flag people as having declared for mobs when they hit them.
Vix2006-08-18 23:05:45
But that would suck for people who want to parley/try for amnesty (though with buffs they're probably impossible to influence).