Ixion.

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Xenthos2006-09-01 13:56:18
QUOTE(Cuber @ Sep 1 2006, 09:52 AM) 326614

And yes, I have to second Rafael. He has good weapons, but even so I was an even match for him, and I'm not a legend. Although I did defeat Kaervas once...

Killing someone once is a personal ego boost, but not really an example of skill.

Has to be repeatable, often, for others to really take it as such.

Which I believe you understand, due to your use of ellipses after the once! happy.gif
Xavius2006-09-01 14:03:28
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QUOTE(Ekard @ Sep 1 2006, 04:41 AM) 326536

There is only few legends in Lusternia.
I would count those amoung them:

Geb - better than me, but been beaten by me--very talented, in either case
Ixion - "talent" stems largely from weapons that are disallowed by current system code
Daevos - worthy of legend title, been scary since beta
Kaervas - ...never really fought this one. I'll take your word for it.
Amaru - Scary, probably technically better than me, not a very efficient fighter.
Murphy - Beaten at last go-round, which was a long, long time ago.
Tuek - ...ha. Right.
Melanchthon (but becose he is legend among forgers)

Followed by:
Diamante - beaten consistently
Rafael - only fought him once, forgot how it ended; I think reinforcements came for one or the other of us
Ethelon - MIA
Thorgal - MIA
Narsrim - as a Moonie, better than Amaru or Tuek, cripplingly efficient and creative fighter
Terenas - MIA, showed talent last time I fought him, still beaten consistently
Alger - rarely fought him, don't ever remember getting much resistence out of him; I remember Flacarealah being scarier


You've got yourself an odd list.
Shamarah2006-09-01 14:05:50
QUOTE(Xavius @ Sep 1 2006, 10:03 AM) 326618

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You've got yourself an odd list.


You're Blacktalon, the strongest guild in the game. You can beat anyone with no effort.
Xavius2006-09-01 14:11:26
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 1 2006, 09:05 AM) 326619

You're Blacktalon, the strongest guild in the game. You can beat anyone with no effort.


It's a little like the hype surrounding Celestines--lots of options, not all can be used effectively together, not all can be used consistently. But yes, we're no Axelords. We're doing ok.
Unknown2006-09-01 14:17:14
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 1 2006, 03:05 PM) 326619

You're Blacktalon, the strongest guild in the game. You can beat anyone with no effort.

We are? blink.gif Sheesh, people, make up your minds. I just replied on another thread where we were made out to be nigh-useless. We're pretty good in wyrden forest terrain, absolutely dead meat anywhere else.
Xavius2006-09-01 14:19:44
QUOTE(vale_kant @ Sep 1 2006, 09:17 AM) 326623

We are? blink.gif Sheesh, people, make up your minds. I just replied on another thread where we were made out to be nigh-useless. We're pretty good in wyrden forest terrain, absolutely dead meat anywhere else.


Ohhhh, let's not even get started on that. "Your demesne is too strong, fight me in neutral territory!" And do what, genius? Sling paralysis and point cudgel?
Unknown2006-09-01 14:23:48
I can manage without a demesne. There are things I can do, I stand a chance. There's nothing I can do in the wrong terrain, though, and lately I've had people consistently refuse even to spar me in forest terrain. Seriously, I can't even cast vines. doh.gif

/hijack
Xavius2006-09-01 14:25:17
QUOTE(vale_kant @ Sep 1 2006, 09:23 AM) 326626

I can manage without a demesne. There are things I can do, I stand a chance. There's nothing I can do in the wrong terrain, though, and lately I've had people consistently refuse even to spar me in forest terrain. Seriously, I can't even cast vines. doh.gif

/hijack


We should do it like the old Achaean druids. Here's my grove. Come fight me in it. I ain't leaving.
Narses2006-09-01 14:30:32
As far as I can tell (and yeah, I am no authority), mages and druids are -supposed- to use their demesnes. It is their -main- skillset!.

Also, the druidic demesne seems stronger and more debilitiating then the mage's. BUT, mages have psionics which is a very powerful skill set, so they can do a great deal better without a demesne. That's the trade-off, of sorts.
Unknown2006-09-01 14:34:05
Mage demesnes are more powerful than druidic ones, at least for me.

And Xavius, for some reason I don't remember you as a very good fighter. No offense but I can't picture you beating Diamante or Tuek. But then, I rarely saw you fight anyway, apart from one raid on Serenwilde when I didn't really had a lot of trouble with you, except for running away.
Sylphas2006-09-01 14:34:58
Debilitating? It sucks for moving groups, but what's debilitating in it? The three afflictions that can be cured off instantly/however long it takes you to focus body, including asthma which does almost nothing for us? Must be those scary squirrels you're talking about. Unless the druid is with you in the room, the demesne isn't going to hurt. Be annoying, sure.
Shamarah2006-09-01 14:45:49
We're talking about Blacktalon, Sylphas, not Hartstone.
Xavius2006-09-01 14:49:26
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 1 2006, 09:45 AM) 326635

We're talking about Blacktalon, Sylphas, not Hartstone.


Because two seconds is so much more than 1.2.

(Don't shoot me, I know my demesne is better than theirs!)
Sylphas2006-09-01 14:51:20
No demesne is debilitating without a Mage/Druid actively attacking you, even without protection scrolls. Just highly annoying.
Xavius2006-09-01 14:52:35
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Sep 1 2006, 09:51 AM) 326637

No demesne is debilitating without a Mage/Druid actively attacking you, even without protection scrolls. Just highly annoying.


I would disagree when it comes to the Geodemesne. Hunger puts a nasty time limit on the fight. Otherwise, yeah. Read protection and come fight us in-demesne, people!
Terenas2006-09-01 15:51:12
I've never claimed to be a good fighter, so not like it matters in the least bit to me but I do find it amusing Xavius is comparing good fighters when all he has to do is wait for Treelife to hit, throw vines, Sap, and then just keep throwing paralysis runes. As it already been said, it takes little efforts for you to kill most people namely because your demesne is way too powerful. Even Munsia was able to beat excellent fighters with a Hartstone demesne, if you can't kill 99% of the population with a Blacktalon demesne then you must really suck.
Sylphas2006-09-01 16:07:49
QUOTE(terenas @ Sep 1 2006, 11:51 AM) 326652
I've never claimed to be a good fighter, so not like it matters in the least bit to me but I do find it amusing Xavius is comparing good fighters when all he has to do is wait for Treelife to hit, throw vines, Sap, and then just keep throwing paralysis runes. As it already been said, it takes little efforts for you to kill most people namely because your demesne is way too powerful. Even Munsia was able to beat excellent fighters with a Hartstone demesne, if you can't kill 99% of the population with a Blacktalon demesne then you must really suck.


SAP DOES NOT EQUAL DEMESNE.

*ahem*

Try killing someone, as a druid, without sap. Pretty sure Thornrend isn't a viable kill anymore, and neither is permawebbing them with Darkseed/Lash.
Nico2006-09-01 16:30:33
QUOTE(Corinthian @ Sep 1 2006, 02:58 AM) 326495


Didn't Murphy killed Nico while Nico was using Murphy's hammers and Murphy using Nico's?


Er. No. If I had ever used Murphy's hammers, I wouldn't have to be guessing as to the alleged stats of them.
Jack2006-09-01 17:59:33
QUOTE(Cuber @ Sep 1 2006, 03:34 PM) 326631

Mage demesnes are more powerful than druidic ones, at least for me.

And Xavius, for some reason I don't remember you as a very good fighter. No offense but I can't picture you beating Diamante or Tuek. But then, I rarely saw you fight anyway, apart from one raid on Serenwilde when I didn't really had a lot of trouble with you, except for running away.

Don't mind Xavius, he's full of crap. "Ha" in conjunction with Tuek? That's just stupid.
Shamarah2006-09-01 19:09:19
There was also Valek, who hardly anyone remembers but who was a scarily good warrior fighter.