so, three seconds. After the end of those, web him. He either tipherets or writhes out, another few seconds. Then you could've cured up some wounds of the first combos, and maybe some health if you use sweetfount. Then you can use charybdon daggers and bubble him as a Aquamancer, or use Waterform.

So, if the demesne does delay him a full 3 seconds, and you web him. He writhes out, then kills you because you only sipped once or twice during the whole time, giving you maybe 1.5k health and still massive wounds. Alternatively, you can twirl staff, maybe get up to 2.2k health, and STILL die next round, because you still have massive wounds. If you use daggers, you'll be off eq, and its a little while before they hit, in which case the enemy would get another round of attacks in, as he's not hindered, and you'll be dead. Best strategy you listed is waterform, but center would work just as well if your demesne was big enough.

Incorrect. To compare apples with apples, look at Kaervas when he was an active titan geo. His demesne and staffcast did MORE damage than me, by a pretty decent amount, on top of the solid geo demesne afflictions, namely stun. I've taken over 2k from an aqua staffcast (to include Forren's, who is not a titan) before too, so don't just randomly claim that no mage cannot achieve my damage. And.. remember, mages DO NOT MISS, ever. warriors miss, and miss tons. Even my lunge missed once in Soll's log. Athana as a telepath mindblasted me for over 2k health, 1k mana, and 1k ego (which is one attack).

You should have seen Athana as a geo.. she made me look like a nub mugwump getting beat down with lightning/fire. I still envy that degree of tankiness.

No mage without a lot of skill and hindering ability will be able to beat Ixion as is. I just don't see it being possible. I have 114 cutting protection. He still does about 900 damage to me, and a whole poopload of wounding.

Like Ixion said, take advantage of his size for escape possibilities, via stuns or webbing. Still going to be very difficult, and if you guess wrong you're dead.

And Ashteru, a single webbing/stun will give you a few seconds, sure, but Ixion dealt 2800 damage in one combo, and I imagine about 1600 wounds (heavy for pinleg). That's about 3 sips, 2 sparkles, and 2 health applications. Honestly, as a mage, I'd just run.


And this is not a scenario that would be a valid argument for the 'zomg nerf warriors' people out there. The problem with warriors is that we suck, but we have a huge potentiality for lethality. That means, most warriors will suck, simply because they can not dish out the damage and wounds required to outpace curing. However, things like weapon artifacts, prenerf weapons, and champ helms make it possible for people like Ixion to absolutely dominate. Look at it this way. Can anyone name a feared/respected warrior fighter that did not have runes, helm, prenerfs, or all three? I can name other class types with feared fighters, without needing a ton of credits/titan/etc.

Murphy - runes, prenerfs, helm.
Daevos - runes, titan stats.
Ixion - runes, prenerfs, titan stats.
Geb - runes.

Maybe the best example I can think of in recent times is Lyco, who, while he bought runes, I do not think they were the really big ones. More so that he wanted to save his weapons from decaying. I may be misinformed.

This is not to say that the above fighters depend on their runes/etc etc for their combat prowess. They are all extremely good fighters. The problem is that give these resources to a capable fighter and it turns them into a monstrous force. Such a thing is not mirrored anywhere else in lusternian combat. I honestly don't see a reasonable fix to this, my only thought would be to fix pre-nerfs. Other than that, we just have to deal.

That's why I said a Mage without a demesne or anything should call a warrior to his aid. Some warriors can hardly be beaten, Titan Ixion being one of them. So just get a warrior with decent fullplate and assist him while fighting. Or get Ttian yourself and whoop Ixion.

I was able to beat Ixion a few times before he became his now Titan self. Here's what I found to work:

Enfeeble.
Blackout (choke) and break arms in blackout.
Throatlock often, mix around with trip, especially in blackout!
Burst burst burst burst burst.

When low on health, phantom and bubble, twirl, and get ready to go again.

However, I've not gone 1v1 while prepared in a demesne with Ixion since he got Titan. Ixion's damage is insane compared to every other warrior I fight. It's off the charts.

Nerf pre-capped weapons!

EDIT: Also - robes? Most greatrobes are sucky. Mine happen to be pretty good for cutting, and I still get trashed by this damage.

People, please stop complaining that one warrior can hurt you like that. If all warriors had elemental runes attached to all their weapons, alot of Merians would be out of buisness fast. 3000 in health for non warriors is what you all get..... I was fighting a mage last night and missed cleave 4 times in a row, thus giving them all the time in the world to build up vessels on me... Warriors are in bad enough shape without you all bitching about them. And if the Divine want to keep players, nothing will be done about Ixion's swords. If they nerfed them or took them just because you all complained, where would it stop? I am pretty sure most people wouldn't buy any arties/credits, since they wouldn't be sure if they were next in line to lose something they have bought, forged and runed. So, deal with it.... warriors suck as is right now, your only complaint is Ixion and he is one person... and like he said I watched Athana slap him around alot. I also remember that Ferlas can tank his damage with no problem... Just admit you all are doing something wrong and go back to the drawing board and get it right.

I would appreciate it very much if someone could remove all the flames and rants on this thread. I stated very simply my intentions to leave facts and numbers to be discussed politely and pleasantly.

Everyone complaining about the 3000-ish health needs a MASSIVE reality check.

Max Health Calculator

At level 98, an Imperial Merian would have 3632 health. Given the damage being dealt, it would equate to Soll taking 1 more blow before dying. As such, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING races with low constitution that lack high end magical defenses can do. Literally, there is nothing they can do.

I find this to be an extreme imbalance.


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I would also note that Soll's weakness to electricity is not 20% (level 2) as he had some resistance via great robes (electric proof, 10%) and elementshield (~10%).

My great robes are not proofed. In the first three logs I did not raise my elementshield. I have a fire-proofed cloak.

I can recall you saying how easy it is to get healthboosts, Narsrim. Talking about pure health is like talking about undeffed fighting. He could eat a platter to increase his life, he could get a lifeblessing, he could do Tosha.

If I have Tosha, a Life blessing, and have consumed a con platter, my health is 4089. I am a level eighty-four merian.

Which helps you survive longer. As I said, don't try to fight people like Ixion on your own. Get your own OP Warriors to fight him. Every nation has one.

Except Glom. But they don't count.

Do your posts have some underlying point? Or did you just miss the fact that Soll was taking 2700+ damage per combo? With Tosha, Life, Fete... Soll would still die in 2 full combos.



When you have a valid point to make, we'll be waiting.

Buffs are so easy to get. Soll should never ever be caught with less than 4k health, honestly.

Read the post above the one I'm quoting. One word comes to mind: irrelevant

There you go. Get blessings, get the right cloak type when fighting me, you had others helping you, so statueform or shield or run a room away to heal, shieldstun, and the list can go on. Shield rune is very very very nice, by the way.

Read the post above.

While I agree that these all would help, they are largely irrelevant in the end. No matter what Soll does at level 84 (which is a high-end level), he will never be able to reduce the damage being dealt to less than 50-60% of his max health meaning that two direct combos will kill him.

It would be wonderful if it was possible to permanently stun/web/etc, but it isn't.

I have to say, any warrior who is not disassociating himself with Ixion completely and holding him up as a fluke with weapons that need to be removed/brought in line with stat caps is an idiot. The situation is wrong, numerically unavoidable in some cases, and, as stated explicitly by the admin, going to be fixed. If you knew what was good for you, you'd get out of the way and avoid nerfing your whole archetype.

EDIT: Ok, what Ixion said about mage damage is true, but not equivalent. Might as well address it.

Mages can be efficiently hindered. You shield, they spend four seconds removing it. You web, they writhe longer than Ixion. The only afflictions they can give simultaneous with damage are demesne afflictions. No demesne can transfix, but pinleg is roughly equivalent. There is no wounding damage that reinforces staffpoint. Mindburst is a different story, but that was pretty quickly readjusted.