Geb's stupidity pet is overpowered.... should they take it away from him or nerf it? Same as Ixion, Melan and Dia's swords that they all have... possibly Murphy's hammers too. They made a mistake and fixed what they could... If they choose to take the existing ones away, they should take away the other OP things too.

If they do this though.... I really hope they will make it so they don't lose the % of credits from the runes purchased being removed.

It will be a sad day when and if this happens... nothing will ever be safe... so be wary of spending money on credits, etc... you don't know what the whiners will take from you next.

Disclaimer on the site has always been that the in game value of the credits you buy WILL fluctuate. I never see this as a valid excuse for arguing why people should be overpowered, though I admit it would suck tons for them.

And no, in my solution, there'd be no cost. You'd just get the runes when they weapon decayed, like how sigils fall off (if they do, I haven't seen it happen in Lusternia yet).

Although the disclaimer says that, I think that I'd have to stop playing if an artifact I paid $300 dollars for was taken away.

Even more so if people just shrugged their sholders and said deal with it.

Swords are not artifacts. The runes are. You'd keep the runes. It'd be similar to them switching up the cubix rooms.

Your squirrel looks like lizard.

Thank you Ialie....


It's like not a good marketing decision to do something like that. If they want to sell credits don't sit and take things away from people, because some haters whine. Market them such as:


Wanna beat the outta Ixion??? Buy this "credit/arti bundle" and stand half a chance... and maybe you too will have people complaining about you on Forums... Remember, the one true way to know you are good is to have people whine about you constantly.... email sales@lusternia.com for more details...


That is gonna make more sales than... Buy credits... we will take them away/nerf what you got later at some point when people complain about...

Actually that's not true, aside from the most hitpoints, which is only because of surge in which you lose a huge chunk of mana. You really have to be near titan to stay surged and survive against guardians/wiccans.

Do guardians/wiccans do that much damage that surge is necessary?

No, but as it takes 8 power to put up surge in the first place, having to relax it every time a wiccan/guardian comes along is annoying.

And if you don't in just a couple hits... poof you're dead

Few problems.

1. I won't touch this one.

2. Guess what? Even if I were to hit Titan or Demigod, it wouldn't affect my offense in the least. All I'd have is more hit points. As a Mugwump? A mere 4600 hp as a Demigod Mugwump. Demigod would not really affect Nihilists, Celestines, Moondancers, or Shadowdancers. Our offense doesn't come from intelligence or strength or dexterity. The intelligence would basically be useless, after a point you don't need more mana. None of these class really kill with damage. Maybe you could argue that for Nihilists/Shadowdancers, but barely.

3. Artifacts? I've spent a lot on them. Guess what though? They don't enhance my offense. There are no artifacts to enhance my offense. I could get a +magic damage artifact, but Moonburst is still weak with it, and not how a Wiccan kills. No amount of artifacts will increase my offense to intolerable levels, period. No artifact will let me do 75% plus of people's max hp plus afflictions. The magic damage artifact is subpar. It does not help me. The option to spend a ridiculous amount of credits on boosting my offense does not even exist for me.

Where can I buy my "I.W.I.N." Button that works against about 80% of Lusternia's population? How much? Do they take credit?

To put a spin on this:

I challenge anyone to name ANY OTHER method of attack in Lusternia that can potentially kill someone with no setup whatsoever in 3-3.5 seconds (the time it would take to combo, recover arm balances, combo).

Now while we are at it... name another method of attack that not only deals deal in the 3-3.5 seconds, but also hinders (ie. pin leg) where you can in no way move unless you writhe for what... 1.5-2.0 seconds?

Evolved Human Warriors get more Constitution then evolved Human magic classes.
Furthermore, all the Warrior inclined races, have higher constitution coupled with their high strength.
The magic inclined races are coupled with low constitution.

Where's the 15 intelligence and 16 constituion race with health regen and good resists? Where's the level 2 equilibrium speed race with 14 constitution and no penalties?

Warriors have more hp. To become tankier or get more health, we have to sacrifice damage. To get more speed and damage, we have to sacrifice health and take huge weakness penalties. Warriors can have their cake and eat it too with getting the best offense and best defense/hp from their race choices.

That's amusing. +20% cudgel damage. That'll put me in line with Ixion. Have the 15% version, actually. Longer-lasting demesnes. No offensive boost. Max health increase? Have it, still die fast. Oh, oh, I know, the damage absorbing rune! A 28% chance to survive to a third round, assuming that I don't get pinlegged. Someone else will have to figure out the odds of first round pinlegs for me. Yes, and in eight seconds, I will pwn his arse with my I.W.I.N. button, a damage-boosted cudgel!



EDIT: Oh, and for the record, I get my fair share of complaints. Some of them are valid. None of them allow me to reliably kill 67% of Lusternia in four seconds.

Only 67%?

Well, if you count the entire game population, I could probably kill about a third in 6 seconds or so, and another third without any trouble at all, and I suck.

Ixion has proven his ability to kill me in five seconds, and I'm quite on my way to omnitrans, and I'm not great at fighting, but I'm not THAT terrible at it, I like to think. However, I always run away after four seconds, so it's all good