Illusion Skill Idea: Glamour

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Unknown2006-08-27 21:21:30
CODE

Syntax: WEAVE GLAMOUR CONCEAL
        WEAVE GLAMOUR ADD
        WEAVE GLAMOUR LIST
        WEAVE GLAMOUR REMOVE | ALL
Power: 1 (Per Add)
Weave a glamour over yourself, wrapping yourself in clothing forged from light and magic. Concealing yourself will completely hide your current attire in an blinding aura. If you add clothing without concealing, it will simply be added on to your appearance when others look at you. If used after concealing, only your illusionary clothing will be visible. Your prestige while under the glamour will be based on your skill level in Illusions, up to royalty at Trans.


Examples:
He is wearing a pair of plain grey trousers and a plain grey tunic.

WEAVE GLAMOUR CONCEAL
His form is concealed by a curtain of blinding light.

WEAVE GLAMOUR ADD gloves a pair of purple and pink gloves
He is wearing a pair of purple and pink gloves.

WEAVE GLAMOUR ADD pants a pair of green clown pants
He is wearing a pair of purple and pink gloves, and a pair of green clown pants.

WEAVE GLAMOUS LIST
gloves --- a pair of pink and purple gloves
pants --- a pair of green clown pants

And then you could use remove to remove individual pieces or all of it.

Its just always seemed strange to me that you could conceal your race, but not your attire. Oh, and to make it not keep mages from needing tailors, it obviously can't duplicate the proofing of things, or the armor, or the storability of a pack. Also, it costs 1 power per piece of clothing you whip up around yourself.
Unknown2006-08-27 23:38:13
Sooomeone has to have an opinion!
Unknown2006-08-27 23:39:16
QUOTE(Fallen @ Aug 27 2006, 01:38 PM) 324895

Sooomeone has to have an opinion!


Waste of time.
Unknown2006-08-27 23:41:28
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Aug 27 2006, 04:39 PM) 324896

Waste of time.


Oh, that's right, it has no combat purpose. Obviously its worthless. Oh.. wait.. what about that whole dramatics skillset? Apparently that was worth the time to code.
Genos2006-08-27 23:45:19
I really like ideas like these that are more RP than anything while still having a utility purpose. Do you mind if I post some ideas I had been toying around that have to do with Illusions as well?
Unknown2006-08-27 23:46:08
QUOTE(Genos @ Aug 27 2006, 04:45 PM) 324899

I really like ideas like these that are more RP than anything while still having a utility purpose. Do you mind if I post some ideas I had been toying around that have to do with Illusions as well?


Go for it. <3 Illusions.
Genos2006-08-27 23:52:48
Some other fun abilities would be things like improving Magicmouth so you can weave it on inanimate objects and even mobs. So when you enter the room instead of a magicmouth saying the message the item/denizen will say it. Obviously when the magicmouth pops up the chance to ignore illusions will work.


Also, maybe add the ability in Changeself to WEAVE CHANGESELF DESCRIPTION so when you WEAVE CHANGESELF your description will be replaced. Simply just doing WEAVE CHANGESELF DESCRIPTION will show what current description you have for that illusion.


For some sabotage and such with people attempting to do quests maybe an ability called Vanish. You can use WEAVE VANISH to make it disappear from LOOK, QL, and IH. You'd still be able to pick it up, poke, probe it, and all the other things it just won't show up when you look at the room. Maybe to prevent a lot of strife have it only work on objects that are in your inventory.


Along those same lines have the ability to make one item look like another. You'd have to have it in your inventory so no turning the Megalith of Doom into a giant daisy. Also, maybe have it have a Power cost and definately only able to have one item Mirage'd at a time.

MIRAGE
Syntax:
WEAVE MIRAGE APPEARANCE
WEAVE MIRAGE DROPPED
WEAVE MIRAGE EXAMINED
WEAVE MIRAGE
(Maybe have a powercost to WEAVE MIRAGE )

This would change the items appearance, dropped description, and examined description. However, it will -not- change its ID number and Noun.

For example:
So you have this item "flower8754" and decide to give it your lover for a gift. However, your significant other has a thing for teddy bears so you decide to weave a mirage on it.

So you would...
WEAVE MIRAGE APPEARANCE a small teddy bear
WEAVE MIRAGE DROPPED A child's teddy bear lies here on the ground, looking rather dirty.
WEAVE MIRAGE EXAMINED Looking like a miniature Tae'dae, this tiny bear has a cute little red ribbon tied around its neck.

Then you'd
WEAVE MIRAGE flower

Despite what it looks like it will still retain the noun and ID number so you can't completely fool someone by acting like you're selling them a teddy bear because they won't be able to probe it. Also in their INVENTORY it would show up as "flower8754 a small teddy bear". This allows it to be used for RP things but you won't be able to really trick people and cause strife.

However, if there is a good way to change the noun of an item without it causing too much trickery or just because it's not that big of a deal for people to scamming each other than you can change the noun and have the ID number stay the same.
Gelo2006-08-27 23:53:20
I dont think tailors will support this kind of idea. It will totaly disable their trade for all illusion users.
Genos2006-08-27 23:54:20
QUOTE(Gelo @ Aug 27 2006, 07:53 PM) 324904

I dont think tailors will support this kind of idea. It will totaly disable their trade for all illusioni users.


Except he said they wouldn't be able to have the effect of armour, proofs, or storability.
Unknown2006-08-27 23:55:24
QUOTE(Gelo @ Aug 27 2006, 01:53 PM) 324904

I dont think tailors will support this kind of idea. It will totaly disable their trade for all illusion users.


That right there is why I said a waste of time.

And I think dramatics is really cool, I haven't had the time to transcend it yet though.
Unknown2006-08-27 23:58:48
QUOTE(Gelo @ Aug 27 2006, 04:53 PM) 324904

I dont think tailors will support this kind of idea. It will totaly disable their trade for all illusion users.


How?

Most mages use only great robes anyway, and they'd still need them. Also, unless the person wanted to spend 5-10 power per session just on their outfit, they're going to buy real clothing. It would simply allow for a bit of flair. Jewellery would still be needed for enchantment, and tailoring would still be needed for packs/bags/belts/robes/cloaks/coats/proofing, which is all most tailors sell anyway.
Vix2006-08-28 00:01:30
Seems easily abusable though. There's a reason why the Charities have to approve designs. What would happen if someone tried LOOK AT on ?
Xenthos2006-08-28 00:05:16
QUOTE(Genos @ Aug 27 2006, 07:54 PM) 324905

Except he said they wouldn't be able to have the effect of armour, proofs, or storability.

Cartels exist to create things beyond splendor robes or proofs, by the way.

And cost a bit of money to submit designs.

If you want custom things, go visit your friendly neighbourhood tailor! Verithrax, Exarius, Urazial, uh... I forget, but there are some Celestians too. And there might be a Seren, like Shorlen or something. happy.gif
Unknown2006-08-28 00:07:18
QUOTE(Vix @ Aug 27 2006, 05:01 PM) 324910

Seems easily abusable though. There's a reason why the Charities have to approve designs.

Its no different then the fact that the charites don't have to approve specific illusions. If someone is vulgar, then they'll get issued. If they want to wear a stuffed mammoth on their head... why couldn't an illusion suit that purpose while breaking the rules of physical clothing?


QUOTE
What would happen if someone tried LOOK AT on ?

Could simply have it say "As you attempt to focus, the image shifts and blurs, preventing you from maintaining a steady gaze." or something similar to reveal that its an illusion. Or, even better possibility, if you try to look at it directly, it poofs.

Would prevent people from being naked underneath.

QUOTE(Xenthos @ Aug 27 2006, 05:05 PM) 324914

Cartels exist to create things beyond splendor robes or proofs, by the way.

And cost a bit of money to submit designs.

If you want custom things, go visit your friendly neighbourhood tailor! Verithrax, Exarius, Urazial, uh... I forget, but there are some Celestians too. And there might be a Seren, like Shorlen or something. happy.gif


But hey, they sell daggers of reincarnation and cameos of the changling! If you want to change race, buy them, and don't use some illusion to fake it!
Genos2006-08-28 00:14:44
Also, I'd assume the illusion clothes will disappear enventually like all other illusions do.
Unknown2006-08-28 00:16:47
QUOTE(Genos @ Aug 27 2006, 05:14 PM) 324922

Also, I'd assume the illusion clothes will disappear enventually like all other illusions do.


I was figuring upon death or QQing, since it costs power. But even maybe a 2-3 hour time-limit in addition to death and QQing would be good.
Genos2006-08-28 00:31:08
Here's another idea I thought up.


SEQUENCE
Syntax:
WEAVE SEQUENCE HERE
WEAVE SEQUENCE ADD
WEAVE SEQUENCE TRIGGER ALL
WEAVE SEQUENCE TRIGGER ALLIES
WEAVE SEQUENCE TRIGGER ENEMIES
WEAVE SEQUENCE TRIGGER
WEAVE SEQUENCE VIEW
Power Cost: 1-10 (to WEAVE SEQUENCE HERE) (the power cost is determined by how many illusions are in the sequence)

Essentially using WEAVE SEQUENCE HERE will set the sequence. The sequence must be set up by using WEAVE SEQUENCE ADD (This shows what order this illusion is in the overall sequence with a maximum of ten) (sets the delay from when it’s triggered or the delay after the previous part of the sequence, if it is the first illusion in the sequence and has a delay of 0 it will act like a Programmed illusion) (sets the colour using the colors at the bottom of CONFIG COLOUR) (what it will say). Using WEAVE SEQUENCE TRIGGER will set who will trigger it, being everyone, your allies, your enemies, or a single person. Using WEAVE SEQUENCE VIEW will show you what the sequence is set up to be and who it will effect.

Once the illusion has been triggered it will begin showing the illusions to everyone in the room and once the sequence finishes the sequence will be destroyed. Also, it will last for about an hour or so and if it isn't triggered it will be destroyed.

EDIT: The main reason I thought of this was less for combat and more for RP. That's why I added the power cost and also it will cost a decent hunk of mana for every letter used when ADDing the illusion. Also, it will cost a lot of mana once you WEAVE SEQUENCE HERE. The idea was to maybe use it to send novices on quests, maybe even for items you changed with MIRAGE, kind of like a scavenger hunt. I might have went a bit overboard on the power costs but it's there to prevent someone from just spamming a bunch of rooms with annoying illusions to mess with people's reflexes.
Verithrax2006-08-28 00:41:26
QUOTE(Fallen @ Aug 27 2006, 09:16 PM) 324923

I was figuring upon death or QQing, since it costs power. But even maybe a 2-3 hour time-limit in addition to death and QQing would be good.

Actually, a slight willpower or mana drain would be best. I don't like the idea of people prancing around with illusory outfits all the time, but I do like the idea of putting on an illusory costume. Most people only buy actually protective clothing, at any rate, and that's the bulk of our profit. I don't like the idea of it giving prestige, though; limit the prestige it could give a lot, at least. Letting it get to royalty for having a trans skill just seems too much, even if prestige is useless right now.

Oh, and people who think every single skill needs a combat use should forget their tradeskills, Arts and Dramatics.
Hazar2006-08-28 00:44:41
Yes, but Dramatics affects influencing which affects combat, plus it can help with psionics, Arts lets you pierce illusions, and most trans-trade items are pretty useful in at least some situations.
Unknown2006-08-28 00:53:04
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Aug 27 2006, 05:41 PM) 324928

Actually, a slight willpower or mana drain would be best. I don't like the idea of people prancing around with illusory outfits all the time, but I do like the idea of putting on an illusory costume. Most people only buy actually protective clothing, at any rate, and that's the bulk of our profit. I don't like the idea of it giving prestige, though; limit the prestige it could give a lot, at least. Letting it get to royalty for having a trans skill just seems too much, even if prestige is useless right now.

Oh, and people who think every single skill needs a combat use should forget their tradeskills, Arts and Dramatics.


The willpower drain is actually a pretty good idea. I prefer willpower over mana because you have more of it, but its also a little harder to regain, which I think balances it out pretty well.

As for the prestige.. maybe 1 prestige level boost at Trans to whatever you're actually wearing?