Narsrim2006-08-28 16:14:30
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(The Dawn Brigade): Shamarah says, "A couple."
4608h, 6013m, 4891e, 10p, 25782w esSixk<>-
The dragging force of a war shrine of Charune forces you to stumble slowly west.
4608h, 6013m, 4891e, 10p, 25782w esSixk<>-
Small sparrows dart in and peck your flesh with needle-like beaks.
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
4503h, 6013m, 4891e, 10p, 25782w esSixkp<>-
Tight bindings prevent you from moving.
4503h, 6013m, 4891e, 10p, 25782w esSixkp<>-
4503h, 6013m, 4891e, 10p, 25782w esSixkp<>-
Muttering the secret names of Tipheret, you clench your fists which begin to
glow. The glow spreads across your body, burning away the bonds that tie you.
4503h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25767w sSixk<>-
You begin to writhe helplessly, throwing your body off balance.
4503h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25767w sSik<>-
4503h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25767w sSik<>-
Shamarah stumbles and grimaces, holding his head and his stomach as he suffers
the wrath of a war shrine of Charune.
Small sparrows dart in and peck your flesh with needle-like beaks.
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
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You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4398h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25779w sSixkp<>-
The dragging force of a war shrine of Charune forces you to stumble slowly west.
4398h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25779w sSixkp<>-
Tight bindings cling to you, making that impossible.
4398h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25779w sSixkp<>-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4398h, 5963m, 4891e, 10p, 25779w esSixkp<>-
Your vision blurs, awash with crimson as the wrath of a war shrine of Charune
engulfs you, ripping at your unworthy form both physically and mentally.
4144h, 5629m, 4622e, 10p, 25779w esSixkp<>-
4144h, 5629m, 4622e, 10p, 25779w esSixkp<>-
Muttering the secret names of Tipheret, you clench your fists which begin to
glow. The glow spreads across your body, burning away the bonds that tie you.
4144h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSixk<>-
You begin to writhe helplessly, throwing your body off balance.
4144h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSik<>-
4144h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSik<>-
4144h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSik<>-
You are recovering equilibrium and cannot move yet.
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You have recovered balance on all limbs.
4144h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSixk<>-
The end of Yini's cudgel forms a knotty burl and she points it at you. The burl
pops and ruptures, shooting a barrage of splinters into your flesh.
3346h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSixk<>-
The dragging force of a war shrine of Charune forces you to stumble slowly west.
3346h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSixk<>-
3346h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25764w sSixk<>-
Small sparrows dart in and peck your flesh with needle-like beaks.
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
3241h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25776w sSixkp<>-
You have recovered equilibrium.
3241h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25776w esSixkp<>-
Tight bindings cling to you, making that impossible.
3241h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25776w esSixkp<>-
Tight bindings prevent you from moving.
3241h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25776w esSixkp<>-
3241h, 5579m, 4622e, 10p, 25776w esSixkp<>-
Muttering the secret names of Tipheret, you clench your fists which begin to
glow. The glow spreads across your body, burning away the bonds that tie you.
3241h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSixk<>-
You begin to writhe helplessly, throwing your body off balance.
3241h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSik<>-
3241h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSik<>-
3241h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSik<>-
Shamarah chants and whispers the name of Yini, who suddenly pales and blinks in
confusion.
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Bleeding wounds open up on the body of Shamarah, whose eyes glow with holy
power.
3241h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSik<>-
Small sparrows dart in and peck your flesh with needle-like beaks.
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSikp<>-
You have recovered balance on all limbs.
3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSixkp<>-
Yini takes a drink from a ruby vial.
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Tight bindings cling to you, making that impossible.
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3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSixkp<>-
You must regain equilibrium first.
3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSixkp<>-
You begin to struggle free of your entanglement.
3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSikp<>-
3136h, 5529m, 4622e, 10p, 25761w sSikp<>-
That's just wrong. I could not move out the room because liveforest was hitting so fast. It should be fun to see this stun action on ripple hitting this fast.
Sylphas2006-08-28 16:24:21
You do realize that if it does, the stun is blatantly better, and they both need looked at, right?
Xenthos2006-08-28 16:27:15
Use time stamps, please? It used to be a 14-second tick, and it shouldn't have changed. If it did, something's messed up-- announce stated nothing about being faster.
Ashteru2006-08-28 16:28:18
maybe you shouldn't writhe after you tipheret...I mean, I didn't see a timer, but doing both is a bit much, no...
Acrune2006-08-28 16:30:09
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Aug 28 2006, 12:27 PM) 325166
Use time stamps, please? It used to be a 14-second tick, and it shouldn't have changed. If it did, something's messed up-- announce stated nothing about being faster.
It is much much much much faster then 14 seconds. I'm thinking something like 3-4, and its been that fast since I've been raiding ethereal (shortly after the war started)
Edit: Though from what I've seen, every tic you have a chance (maybe 25%?) of getting webbed.
Soll2006-08-28 16:32:38
It seems to be on a defined timer, but the timer seems to change. I think it's actually closer to a 25-33% chance to web every 3-4 seconds, than any "It will hit every x seconds." That's why you see big groups of stuff like. Same with shrine powers.
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
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Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
etc
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
etc
Narsrim2006-08-28 16:33:13
I don't have a timestamp, but there are some general inferences that can be made:
Tipheret has a 2.0-2.5 second equilibrium. If you look at the log:
1. Liveforest hits
2. Narsrim Tipherets
3. Liveforest hits (before equilibrium is regained)
4. Narsrim attempts to move west
5. Delay from gravity
6. Liveforest hits BEFORE movement happens
While we would be roughly assuming, I think we can totally 100% rule out every 14 seconds. It is more like every 6. HOWEVER IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, Liveforest seems to hit less if there are more targets in a given area. I can't prove this, but from experience, it seems to be the case.
Tipheret has a 2.0-2.5 second equilibrium. If you look at the log:
1. Liveforest hits
2. Narsrim Tipherets
3. Liveforest hits (before equilibrium is regained)
4. Narsrim attempts to move west
5. Delay from gravity
6. Liveforest hits BEFORE movement happens
While we would be roughly assuming, I think we can totally 100% rule out every 14 seconds. It is more like every 6. HOWEVER IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE, Liveforest seems to hit less if there are more targets in a given area. I can't prove this, but from experience, it seems to be the case.
Narsrim2006-08-28 16:35:37
QUOTE(Soll @ Aug 28 2006, 12:32 PM) 325170
It seems to be on a defined timer, but the timer seems to change. I think it's actually closer to a 25-33% chance to web every 3-4 seconds, than any "It will hit every x seconds." That's why you see big tics of stuff like
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around you, wrapping you in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Malicia, wrapping her in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Soll, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
-
Vines reach out and slither up around Shamarah, wrapping him in a tight grip.
Vines reach out and slither up around Vesar, wrapping him in a tight grip.
etc
Which needs severely changed. It can web you back-to-back-to-back like 3 times in a row every 4 seconds.
Daganev2006-08-28 16:39:06
would it make more sense if it hit every 4 seconds, but only one person, so the more people the less likely for any individual to get hit? (ontop of the 30% chance)
Sylphas2006-08-28 16:52:49
If there were 5 people, and it didn't pick any person more than once, that's basically on a 20 second timer. If there are more, it gets slower.
Narsrim2006-08-28 17:13:16
Whatever the case, it needs fixed to only hit a given individual say every 14 seconds or so.
Estarra2006-08-28 17:16:18
The rate of liveforest shouldn't have changed but we'll look into it.
BTW, the "14 second" timer was a myth as the discretionary powers are much more complicated than simple timers (one of the reasons changing it to "hit everyone at once" isn't really doable).
BTW, the "14 second" timer was a myth as the discretionary powers are much more complicated than simple timers (one of the reasons changing it to "hit everyone at once" isn't really doable).
Narsrim2006-08-28 17:17:37
Well all I know is that I was bound 3 times in a row with about 4 seconds in between hits. That, regardless of how it is coded, is too fast.
Sylphas2006-08-28 18:25:21
Wouldn't it be easier to just start from scratch, yank the demesne code, and tweak it to be Etherwilde/etc. only? 
Then again, I have no clue how they work now or how Rapture is coded.
Then again, I have no clue how they work now or how Rapture is coded.
Shorlen2006-08-28 20:20:37
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 28 2006, 12:24 PM) 325165
You do realize that if it does, the stun is blatantly better, and they both need looked at, right?
Of course not, one helps Narsrim, the other doesn't
But seriously, liveforest should either hit everyone on a 14 second timer like we thought it did, or have a 25% chance of hitting every 4-6 seconds =\\
Archthron2006-08-28 20:44:27
Um, if you writhed instead of tiphereting... well, entangles don't stack, so you'd escape entanglement and instantly be able to move. Just get rid of that tipheret response and you're golden.
Estarra2006-08-28 20:55:17
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Aug 28 2006, 11:25 AM) 325210
Wouldn't it be easier to just start from scratch, yank the demesne code, and tweak it to be Etherwilde/etc. only?
Uh, no.
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Aug 28 2006, 01:20 PM) 325250
...or have a 25% chance of hitting every 4-6 seconds =\\
That's closer to how it works which makes me think Narsrim may just have been unlucky for that snippet he posted.
Genos2006-08-28 22:13:30
Is there a way to make it so you won't have unlucky streaks like Narsrim had?
Shorlen2006-08-28 23:00:12
QUOTE(Genos @ Aug 28 2006, 06:13 PM) 325292
Is there a way to make it so you won't have unlucky streaks like Narsrim had?
Why? Unlucky strokes mean there are also lucky strokes in which you aren't afflicted at all for a long time - you're MUCH more likely to NOT be afflicted four times in a row than to be afflicted four times in a row.
Verithrax2006-08-28 23:03:25
Yes, but that kind of defeats the purpose of using a random number.
