QUOTE(Vaerhon @ Apr 13 2007, 04:19 AM) 398298
@Ildaudid
Actually, I usually clucked all the chickens in a village at the end of a rustling run, so it saw a fair bit of use. Irritating as it can be, it was still a change after the cow/pilgrim circuits. But, yeah. Let trackers hunt bigger game for bigger comms.
Ideas on what, and how?
Scent would be nice, but I'd rather hear first what some Commune people think about it.
The scryblock is, I think, probably a little much.
Still in favor of the resistances.
Actually, I usually clucked all the chickens in a village at the end of a rustling run, so it saw a fair bit of use. Irritating as it can be, it was still a change after the cow/pilgrim circuits. But, yeah. Let trackers hunt bigger game for bigger comms.
Ideas on what, and how?
Scent would be nice, but I'd rather hear first what some Commune people think about it.
The scryblock is, I think, probably a little much.
Still in favor of the resistances.
Trust me put it in Hunting the last skill before Mastery and I can guarantee that no commune member would complain. Am I right Kaervas
I think the gods eventually meant for Wallfeatures to be more then just the Sconce skill. So I was thinking of what else could be wall features, and I thought maybe dressing screens/drapes and mirrors would be a neat addition. For a "lady's proper dressing room" type setting. I blame Athine for making me think of these. 
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Apr 13 2007, 12:32 PM) 398411
Trust me put it in Hunting the last skill before Mastery and I can guarantee that no commune member would complain. Am I right Kaervas
As long as FarScout is added as a skill in Illusions or Dreamweaving, we wouldn't complain.
QUOTE(Shiri @ Apr 24 2007, 07:30 AM) 401112
Nature blend needs to be changed so that it doesn't just fall off if you leave a nature zone. It should "hide", like (say) totem spirits do, so you don't have to reactivate it every time you move 2 rooms in a blasted village.
I've been told this isn't an envoys matter and it isn't a bug, so here'll have to do I suppose.
I've been told this isn't an envoys matter and it isn't a bug, so here'll have to do I suppose.
YES PLEASE! Nature blend shouldn't just drop, it should be 'inactive' until you enter forest again at which point it becomes 'active'. Instead of removing the defence if you take -one- wrong step.
QUOTE(shadow @ Apr 24 2007, 04:15 AM) 401141
YES PLEASE! Nature blend shouldn't just drop, it should be 'inactive' until you enter forest again at which point it becomes 'active'. Instead of removing the defence if you take -one- wrong step.
I did envoy it. Dunno what came of it though - I didn't hear Estarra say anything about it, but the change never happened... Might be a bug as Shiri said.
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Apr 24 2007, 11:17 AM) 401146
I did envoy it. Dunno what came of it though - I didn't hear Estarra say anything about it, but the change never happened... Might be a bug as Shiri said.
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Apr 24 2007, 12:53 AM) 401138
Need to have a skill that can bypass it too though, also the power cost is too low, if you want something like this or like I stated earlier, power cost needs to be 10 power or hell 20 power (meaning it would take 10% from your reserves if possible) Also it should go away like yellow but on a longer timer, so if people really wanna use it, it will cost them. If it isn't high power and something that is on a timer, it will be up all the time. It needs to be something that people only wanna use when planning a raid etc. With such a high power cost, I think it will be used only at certain times, not all the time.... Also it must have a counter to it.... I said make it Hunting/Ecology since it would be nice for the people who have useful utility skills. But if it is available to anyone it should still be way up there 50% mythical or trans.
High power + on a timer + high in a skillset = A decent skill that wont be constantly used. Kinda like powermask, how often is that used?
High power + on a timer + high in a skillset = A decent skill that wont be constantly used. Kinda like powermask, how often is that used?
Is there really a point to a skill that can bypass/counter it (since it's already a counter to scries/window/farscout.), as the whole idea is that it only works some of the time, anyway? Like Aiakon said, you'd just have to scry a few times until it actually went through. Also, 10 or 20(!) power for an ability that will block scries 1/20 times once you get it (or 3/20 at Trans?)? That's overkill. As for the timer thing, that's also worth considering.
In all fairness, an ability like scry-blocking should be available to EVERYONE for the sheer practicality, instead of just hunters/trackers, without having to wait for Aethersense which just tells you you're being scried and by such and such person. At a stretch, put it in Cosmic or Elementalism so you could get it enchanted, but that doesn't really seem as fair as just putting it in a common skill.
EDIT: To clarify, I'm not entirely sure which would be better mechanically for gameplay: To have the message when your scry target isn't online ("You detect nothing here by that name."/"Nothing can be seen here by that name."), or another message - if the scry is blocked - along the lines of: "The image of
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Apr 24 2007, 01:50 AM) 401142
Innnnteresting. It wouldn't stop anyone determined - they'd just scry twice or three times if they really wanted to know if you were there. But it would nerf farscout. And I hate farscout.
Generally I'm against scry-protection. I -really- don't want to see something like the have in Achaea. But this I quite like.
Generally I'm against scry-protection. I -really- don't want to see something like the have in Achaea. But this I quite like.
QUOTE(Ildaudid @ Apr 24 2007, 11:40 AM) 401222
Yea sorry I didn't read the whole thing through, if it only blocked some of the time, yeah it shouldn't cost so much. But Aiakon has a point farscouters/scry whores will just spam scry. Unless maybe if you give them the message: You detect nothing here by that name."/"Nothing can be seen here by that name. That may help that some.
I know, which is why I was wondering what sort of message would work better. However, unless you have a gem of cloaking, you could always be seen on WHO lists (provided you're on the same plane and whatnot) and that might cause a few unnecessary BUG reports... And spamming farscout?
That's a real waste of mana, if you're just trying to scry one person (better to use window, I think). Not to mention if you coupled Aethersense with a scry-blocking skill, you'd be notified each and every time you were scried, and that would be major spammage right there. Looks like a scry-blocking skill would take a lot of adjusting to get it to the point where it's effective as a utility.EDIT: I suppose you could always adjust the eq time on Scry/Window/Farscout/Astrosense so that it would be difficult to spam it so quickly (up the recovery from 1 second or so up to 3 or 4 seconds). After all, a utility skill has no direct combat use and slowing the equilibrium time shouldn't really affect their use. And it would be easier on our eyes for Forren to not spam Scry every second at the Pool, like he does every now and then...
